Any New Info on the RS5? V10 or TT V8?

[D0lphinGrey]

EDIT: Any updates on this?

I read somewhere awhile ago (Aug 09) its going to a N/A V8 4.2 and 7 speed DSG. The later is good news but no twin turbo or V10? Would be a disappointment if its true.


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I know there are a few threads on this topic but most them are two month old. so any new info out there regarding the RS5?

Lastest EVO says V10 version of the RS4 V8FSI. How is it different to the S6/S8 V10 or Lambo V10?

V8 twin turbo denied? or still possible? I would prefer forced induction.

What about chassis and the rest? Hopefully not just an 2 door version of the RS4.

Cheers

[toaster]

i am pretty sure we are going to see a V-8 bi-t.

"450bhp Audi RS5 that arrives early next year to take on its new BMW M3 and Mercedes-Benz C63 rivals. Like all Audi R models, the top of the line Audi A5 has been fully developed by Quattro, Audi’s in-house go-fast engineering team. The Audi RS5 will get the full Quattro treatment. The awesome high-revving 4.2-litre V8 that powers the Audi RS4 gets plumbed into the Audi RS5’s nose, complete with two small and highly responsive turbochargers that will take peak power up to the 450hp. That’s not much more than the Audi S5’s 354bhp, but the Audi RS5 searing pace will come from its phenomenal turbo powered torque – expect at least 500lb ft of torque across the rev range."

[toaster]

Hopefully not just an 2 door version of the RS4.

God FORBID!!!

lol.

[bunnn]

hasnt it already been said that the A5/S5/RS5 is based on the new B8 chassis?.. with that thought I doubt itll just be an 2dr RS4

[CanuckRS4]

I'll ask that specific question at the Frankfurt Auto Show in a few weeks from the Audi boys and girls.
Whatever they decide to do, i'm sure it'll be one amazing machine.

[MattboyR32]

stunners4, good luck with that, usually they are just promo people and marketers at Frankfurt, but hopefully you can latch onto someone in the know. Miss the frankfurt motor show. :(

[Cargo8]

fairly certain that v10 is a no go.
v8tt oor something of the sort seems very likely.

[enigma1406]

I'd say RS4 V8.

[EuroB6]

I know there are a few threads on this topic but most them are two month old. so any new info out there regarding the RS5?

Lastest EVO says V10 version of the RS4 V8FSI. How is it different to the S6/S8 V10 or Lambo V10?

V8 twin turbo denied? or still possible? I would prefer forced induction.

What about chassis and the rest? Hopefully not just an 2 door version of the RS4.

Cheers

S5 is out already...RS5 is going to look just like it, but beefed up looking like every other R version...so, NO body style change in that

[D0lphinGrey]

I'd say RS4 V8.

Don't think it will be the N/A V8 as it has aleady been developed within its last inch of breath. Unless Audi settles for using the exact same engine for both RS4 and RS5. just like what BMW is plannig with M3 coupe and sedan.

V8tt sounds promising though.

[hasan84]

i am pretty sure we are going to see a V-8 bi-t.

"450bhp Audi RS5 that arrives early next year to take on its new BMW M3 and Mercedes-Benz C63 rivals. Like all Audi R models, the top of the line Audi A5 has been fully developed by Quattro, Audi’s in-house go-fast engineering team. The Audi RS5 will get the full Quattro treatment. The awesome high-revving 4.2-litre V8 that powers the Audi RS4 gets plumbed into the Audi RS5’s nose, complete with two small and highly responsive turbochargers that will take peak power up to the 450hp. That’s not much more than the Audi S5’s 354bhp, but the Audi RS5 searing pace will come from its phenomenal turbo powered torque – expect at least 500lb ft of torque across the rev range."

where did you read that quote?

[ngkanatsios]

While in Europe, the auto magazines there showed an RS5 in testing on the streets of Germany. According to the article, the engine will be the same as the RS4 twicked for a little more horsepower (450) and torque (I think more that 350). The quote ended with the release date of the RS4 being spring 2009 (Europe did not mention US but judging from the S5 release I bet they will be released together). Asking my Audi dealer, however, he said that according to Audi communications the RS5 plans are in limbo. Nothing is certain that there will be an RS5 any time soon. There is a possibility but not definite plans.

Proud owner of a brilliant black B7 S4.

[gods_kitchen]

i am pretty sure we are going to see a V-8 bi-t.

"450bhp Audi RS5 that arrives early next year to take on its new BMW M3 and Mercedes-Benz C63 rivals. Like all Audi R models, the top of the line Audi A5 has been fully developed by Quattro, Audi’s in-house go-fast engineering team. The Audi RS5 will get the full Quattro treatment. The awesome high-revving 4.2-litre V8 that powers the Audi RS4 gets plumbed into the Audi RS5’s nose, complete with two small and highly responsive turbochargers that will take peak power up to the 450hp. That’s not much more than the Audi S5’s 354bhp, but the Audi RS5 searing pace will come from its phenomenal turbo powered torque – expect at least 500lb ft of torque across the rev range."

that would be sweet! but if it's a 4.2TT, it better make 500hp/500tq [:D]

[Greeney]

that would be sweet! but if it's a 4.2TT, it better make 500hp/500tq [:D]

I am sure it would if it was a TT V8.

[scoobaru07]

From the spy pics and articles i've seen and read, a twin turbo variant of the 4.2v8 from the B7 Rs4 is very very likely, but time will only tell and it isn't 100% certain. i doubt it will be a tuned up version of the original 4.2 because its already at its limits. i read that the TT variant will be a torque monster. 2 small turbos that substantially increase torque rather than horsepower. i'm subscribed for sure though, lets hope for the best.

[Maverick]

i would hate it if they put a blown version of the RS4 V8. V8TT is the best answer....

[Silververtu]

We need some kick ass twin turbo V8 engines to fight back!

[D0lphinGrey]

I think with the recent release of the RS6 - twin turbo V10; its only fitting that the RS5 is going to be twin turbo V8.

[Brian@AudiMV]

We haven't heard much of anything from AoA over here, but the RS5 will be a 2009 car at the very very earliest, and will most likely be a very early 2010 release just like the RS4 was (somewhere between the first and 2nd quarter of 2009) As far as the power plants go, we're as much in the dark as anyone else is from Audi, but I'll let you guys know as soon as more info is available.

[D0lphinGrey]

Thanks! Definitely keep us updated[up]

[jonmiles]

i am pretty sure we are going to see a V-8 bi-t.

"450bhp Audi RS5 that arrives early next year to take on its new BMW M3 and Mercedes-Benz C63 rivals. Like all Audi R models, the top of the line Audi A5 has been fully developed by Quattro, Audi’s in-house go-fast engineering team. The Audi RS5 will get the full Quattro treatment. The awesome high-revving 4.2-litre V8 that powers the Audi RS4 gets plumbed into the Audi RS5’s nose, complete with two small and highly responsive turbochargers that will take peak power up to the 450hp. That’s not much more than the Audi S5’s 354bhp, but the Audi RS5 searing pace will come from its phenomenal turbo powered torque – expect at least 500lb ft of torque across the rev range."

I wouldn't trust this source at all... Quattro is audi's awd system... GmbH is audi's in house engineering team. If they can't get the basics right, chances are they are talking out thier ass

[hasan84]

egmcartech.com has some new info

http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/11/07/see-ya-later-m3-coupe-audi-rs-5-could-get-lambos-500hp-v10/

[Hamotee]

I wouldn't trust this source at all... Quattro is audi's awd system... GmbH is audi's in house engineering team. If they can't get the basics right, chances are they are talking out thier ass

GmbH is Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung, which is kind of the German version of Inc. Quattro GmbH is the Audi division that deals the RS cars from what I understand.

[enigma1406]

I wouldn't trust this source at all... Quattro is audi's awd system... GmbH is audi's in house engineering team. If they can't get the basics right, chances are they are talking out thier ass
Not true.


GmbH is Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung, which is kind of the German version of Inc. Quattro GmbH is the Audi division that deals the RS cars from what I understand.
Yep, that's pretty much right. GmbH is more like LLC here in the US, but it is Quattro GmbH as you pointed out.

[D0lphinGrey]

Audi RS5 may get detuned Gallardo V10 (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/12/enter-the-rumormill-audi-rs5-may-get-detuned-gallardo-v10/)

[Hamotee]

Audi RS5 may get detuned Gallardo V10 (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/12/enter-the-rumormill-audi-rs5-may-get-detuned-gallardo-v10/)

That would be sweet. Have you guys heard anything about projected pricing?

[Chris from Cali]

More from Autoblog...

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/26/audi-rs-models-coming-to-market-sooner/

If the RS5 is that good, I might need to trade in my RS4 early. [eek]

[polyconsoler]

Thats great news, except if you are a current RS owner since it will most likely lower your resale value. But when you buy a $70k car, resale isn't really the first thing on your mind.

[Cargo8]

the quattro gmbh thing has already been resolved.
most sources agree that V8 twin f/i is likely. Either two small volume turbos or small superchargerd to increase torque...
also, teh rs5 and rs4 won't BOTH come out at the same time. quattro only does one car at a time. Seeing as the RS6 just came out, as did the new A4 (B8), but the A5 has been out longer (in comparison to RS6 and A4 B8 which are not really OUT), RS5 is likely first up, followed by RS4. By 2009, A5 will be already have been in production for 2 years, with a few years left under its belt before a remodel, the RS5 will emerge and be sold in limited production until the end of the model/chassis (next facelift / chassis). Since teh RS5 and RS4 will likely have similar if not the same engine, the RS4 will show up a year (<-Probably) or two later, then being in the final years of the B8 A4 chassis, the RS4 will be sold in limited production until the end of taht chassis/body, etc.

[D0lphinGrey]

Any updates on the power source? Read on the lastest CAR magazine its gonna be a TT V8, is't true?

[Sleepy 1]

There was another Autoblog article pretty recently saying the RS6 won't be coming to America at all, but that the RS5 will be revealed in Detroit this coming January.

[BD997]

There was another Autoblog article pretty recently saying the RS6 won't be coming to America at all, but that the RS5 will be revealed in Detroit this coming January.
I was told it would be here next fall... was my dealer wrong??? I'm first at my dealer...

[sbkim]

No one really knows for certainty but I think next Fall makes sense. I also put deposits at 2 separate dealerships (#1 on one #4 on the other). It's my understanding it goes into production in Feb 09 so Summer/Fall doesn't appear unreasonable.

[BD997]

If it goes into production in feb why wouldnt it be here in the spring??

[sbkim]

My guess is Europe will get the cars first but who knows may be we'll get lucky and get the cars the same time. I'd be ecstatic if we get the cars in Spring.

[gadumah]

I think a 450 HP TT V8 sounds about right. That would bring it just above the current M3 and careful enough not to compete with Lamborghini in the HP race (the RS6 is a big heavy car so they could go nuts with HP without any issues).

I do hope they trim some fat off of the current S5 though.

[sbkim]

I think a 450 HP TT V8 sounds about right. That would bring it just above the current M3 and careful enough not to compete with Lamborghini in the HP race (the RS6 is a big heavy car so they could go nuts with HP without any issues).

I do hope they trim some fat off of the current S5 though.

I believe they are saying NA 470HP V8.

[BD997]

I believe they are saying NA 470HP V8.so with a little tuning/bolt-on's we could touch 500hp???[:)]

[sbkim]

so with a little tuning/bolt-on's we could touch 500hp???[:)]

BD997 - I hope so. But not sure how much "room" audi will leave after tuning the 430hp RS4 to 470hp. I guess good way to find out is if people are able to extract more than 500hp with the current RS4 V8 engine without increasing displacement and FI. Based on my quick search, I am not seeing much other than MTM supercharger.

[jonmiles]

The RS5 will be out in 2010, and it will be a 470+ hp Bi-turbo V8 GTR killer.


:Oops: [;)]

[jonmiles]

No one really knows for certainty but I think next Fall makes sense. I also put deposits at 2 separate dealerships (#1 on one #4 on the other). It's my understanding it goes into production in Feb 09 so Summer/Fall doesn't appear unreasonable.



Wrong. The new S4 is going to be released in September of 09. They won't bring out the RS5 at the same time.

[BD997]

Will the S4 be faster than the S5? That's the big question....

[BD997]

The RS5 will be out in 2010, and it will be a 470+ hp Bi-turbo V8 GTR killer.


:Oops: [;)]

there's no way the RS5 will take on the mighty Nissan GTR...

[bunnn]

The RS5 will be out in 2010, and it will be a 470+ hp Bi-turbo V8 GTR killer.


:Oops: [;)]

so contrary to the other thread where the rs5 test mule was being discussed..it;s not a high revving V8 anymore and we're back to where we started?

i'd like to know how accurate your info is..compared to the person interacting with the test mule

[sbkim]

Wrong. The new S4 is going to be released in September of 09. They won't bring out the RS5 at the same time.

So what's your guess on when RS5 will be released in US? Given that RS5 will make its debut about 3 months after S4, I guess it's going to be in the winter of 09? That would blow...

[youry]

The RS5 will be out in 2010, and it will be a 470+ hp Bi-turbo V8 GTR killer.


:Oops: [;)]

hey I think we'd all like that to be true........ but my source still says a 4.2 V8 NA with only 450hp based on RS4 B7 engine....

now if you have a very reliablesourcen we'de like to know more about it....

[turbo4s]

this is like the 900,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 time this was posted. They have a test mule out. 470hp 4.2 V8.

[BD997]

im more curious to see the new DSG tranny its going to come with.... anyone have any info on that??

[sbkim]

Wrong. The new S4 is going to be released in September of 09. They won't bring out the RS5 at the same time.

Well, here's some additional info from LeftLane. Certainly more that what dealers can provide [rolleyes]:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/audi-rs5-future.html

"Though we don’t know any specifics on an estimated debut, we expect to see the hotter RS5 at an upcoming auto show with an on sale date of late Spring or early Summer 2009 as a 2010 model. "

[BD997]

Well, here's some additional info from LeftLane. Certainly more that what dealers can provide [rolleyes]:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/audi-rs5-future.html

"Though we don’t know any specifics on an estimated debut, we expect to see the hotter RS5 at an upcoming auto show with an on sale date of late Spring or early Summer 2009 as a 2010 model. "
im assuming they mean sales in europe for spring/early summer right??

[sbkim]

I presume so. Not sure how much delay there is btw Europe and US deliveries...

[BD997]

I presume so. Not sure how much delay there is btw Europe and US deliveries...
6 months atleast...[headbang]

[sbkim]

Ouch! Ok - well, I guess it's going to be winter delivery.

[20vturbo]

it is out already car magazine from uk has an article on it taking on the m3...it has a 4.2 v8 high reving twin turbo..revs up to 8k 6 speed manual and 7 speed dsg..uses hydro clutch to deal with the massive amount of torque and has the latest rear diff as found on the new b8 cars...expect to enter production in 2009 and prob to north america in 2010
I was just asking myself how come audizine doesn't have a front page on it

[BD997]

it is out already car magazine from uk has an article on it taking on the m3...it has a 4.2 v8 high reving twin turbo..revs up to 8k 6 speed manual and 7 speed dsg..uses hydro clutch to deal with the massive amount of torque and has the latest rear diff as found on the new b8 cars...expect to enter production in 2009 and prob to north america in 2010
I was just asking myself how come audizine doesn't have a front page on it

awsome news!!! thanks

[BSIXER]

http://autospider.blogspot.com/2008/09/2010-audi-rs5-vs-2010-bmw-m3-csl.html

[sbkim]

it is out already car magazine from uk has an article on it taking on the m3...it has a 4.2 v8 high reving twin turbo..revs up to 8k 6 speed manual and 7 speed dsg..uses hydro clutch to deal with the massive amount of torque and has the latest rear diff as found on the new b8 cars...expect to enter production in 2009 and prob to north america in 2010
I was just asking myself how come audizine doesn't have a front page on it


It was discussed before - the article was made up (hypothetical).

http://www.a5oc.com/forums/showthread.php/car-magazine-test-4758/index.html?p=51896#post51896


Bunch of class-less money hungry ahole UK mag.

[sbkim]

Wait, I stand corrected. So there is hope for twin turbo V8 for RS5?

http://forums.fourtitude.com/zerothread?id=4092300

[BD997]

Wait, I stand corrected. So there is hope for twin turbo V8 for RS5?

http://forums.fourtitude.com/zerothread?id=4092300 wow, interesting stuff. When is Geneva?

[D0lphinGrey]

I read somewhere awhile ago its going to a N/A V8 4.2 and 7 speed DSG. The later is good news but no twin turbo or V10? Would be a disappointment if its true.

Anyone has more info about this?

[WesZ@PYSpeed.com]

Correct.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Industry-News/Audi-RS5-engine-confirmed-plus-RS5-cabrio/

[AeroSmith]

Audi RS5 may get detuned Gallardo V10 (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/12/enter-the-rumormill-audi-rs5-may-get-detuned-gallardo-v10/)

I doubt it would fit. And if it does you can kiss the handling goodbye.

[WinterRunner]

Correct.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/Industry-News/Audi-RS5-engine-confirmed-plus-RS5-cabrio/

Love this engine, thats why I own one! =)

[D0lphinGrey]

Love this engine, thats why I own one! =)

What does the RS4 engine rev to? If RS5 is to make more power in N/A form I'd expect even higher revs. Music to the ears!

[CapeQuattro]

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/spyshots/242482/audi_rs5.html

Just saw this tonight...please be a V8TT!