Project Imola Beast

[sfored]

I almost never post on AZine but I have been spending more time on the classifieds etc but I wanted to share and get feedback from you guys as well.

Danny at FI (FastIntentions)is doing an amazing job on my car and I am hoping he is reading this ;) (*stroke - stroke*)

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/4656IMG_2920.JPG

The car:
01 - Imola - 6spd

Engine:
Built motor: Rods, Pistons, Cams, Springs, Retainers (Stock Valves - too many too $$), Port polish etc.

Turbos:
Innovative Custom Setup based on T3/T4 setup

Engine Management:
Autronics SM2

Tranny: Stock with center diff. Clutchmasters stage 5 - twin disk clutch..
etc. etc.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/4656IMG_2924.JPG

NOW onto the IC - I am thinking about either the ER's or 2 small side mounts from turbonetics liquid to air in the stock location.
Any thoughts ? Suggestions ?


Wifey Car for Sale in Classifieds (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=147430)

[badassb5]

That looks like a hellova project you have going there. Keep us updated please [up]

*Subscribed*

[Silence]

I know someone who has an ER FMIC thats ready to sell, although slightly used.

[sfored]

do you know why he is selling ?

I am very interested.. PM me please amosisoglu@gmail.com

[AudiA4_20T]

Well Liquid to air are the best cooling you can get but are more expensive and harder to mount... the ERs are also nice you can't really go wrong with them

o and how much are you shooting for? Id say 500-600whp? O and please tell me youll take it to the track and put down some awesome #s as well

[sfored]

the setup "should" do minimum 600-700 whp; the turbos are good for 450 to 550 each. IF spooling does not become too much of an issue .... well... we'll see...

When you say track .. do you mean road course ? or drag ?

Drag - I will definitely do. Road course... not sure if 1000 hp is a road course car but ... like I've said before.. we'll see...

[AudiSportB5S4]

my '00 S4 with giac chip and some fancy samco hoses will take you right now........ the way it is, not put together !!! hahahaha... looks awesome love the color, that thing will be a beast and a half. good job !

[EUROTEK//S4]

OMFG!!!! [eek][eek][eek] UBER IMOLA S4 !!!! [hail][hail][hail]


please keep us updated w/ pics and vids ....[:)]

[TRANS4M]

that is like an evil big brother to my car!

[hail]

[nizmosx]

FI does incredible work, but they sure take a long time to finish .hahahaha

[sfored]

good things come those that wait........................n wait .................n wait...........n.....I hope

[europshhrc279]

god damn..thats a crazy setup youve got going on...you must post pics and vids when its all done..good luck!

[enigma1406]

I saw your car there when I went and got the exhaust put on my car. I wanted it. [:)]

[EUROTEK//S4]

what kinda upgrades are need for a setup like this ? suspension and drivetrain ...

[RAyala2.7T]

great project you have going there!!! how do you feel about the exhaust downpipes being in the position they're in? would that be excessive heat on top of the heads?

[KamiLos]

looking sick bro.. can you share the specs on the parts? [race]

[AudiA4_20T]

what kinda upgrades are need for a setup like this ? suspension and drivetrain ...

what do you mean? Coilovers and a clutch should do it.. Maybe he rebuilt the tranny but don't think your TIP tranny can handle it

[sfored]

too many to list .. do you have a q on any particular item ?

JE Pistons
Pauter Rods
ARP Head Bolts - not studs
Port n Polish done by FlowWorks

Turbos are .36 A/R with the sickest wheel you'll find on the street.

lots of time and love..


looking sick bro.. can you share the specs on the parts? [race]

[Cactus00S4]

u should put ram air ports in each headlight, cut out the low beam section and put it there, and then just use the projectors only, that would look SICK!!! dueal ram air rite into those monsters, does the hood fit over those babies???

[marfcus]

I think you should go with the ER side mounts or ASP front mount and go with a water/meth setup. If the side/front mount doesn't work out sell them then go with the air/water cooled if you can find room for it in the engine bay [up] I would think that the above mentioned ic's with w/m injection should perform just about on the same level as the a/w cooler no? Pretty gnar project [up]

[sfored]

just pulled the trigger on side mount ERs..

[b5s4tt]

awesome, are you going to run side pipes ? or out the front bumper or stock to the rear of the car? looks great by the way cant wait to see it finished

[sfored]

back to a restricted exhaust...
with dumps

[Das General]

you should go straight 3.5" pipes all the way back. At least so it "looks stock"

Fuck cats n mufflers. They restrict too much.

[sean1.8t]

^strait 3" should be plenty large enough for those turbo's.

but im curious, are those turbo's DBB?? are you running external WG? and where did you get your manifolds/downpipes? custom built by fastintentions?

[revhards4]

.36 A/R...damn it should spool pretty goodthen, I was thinking they might be .48 and I thought they might come on full bore at around 5500...Alot of us including you may be surprised that this setup will be very streetable

[2001S4NY]

nice looking project, looks like one on my list. best of luck

[sfored]

I hope you are right ... I had the .48s then opted for the .36s because i wanted streetablity and SPOOL... Justin from Innovative hooked me up with some CRAZY internals as well.. I can't wait ...


.36 A/R...damn it should spool pretty goodthen, I was thinking they might be .48 and I thought they might come on full bore at around 5500...Alot of us including you may be surprised that this setup will be very streetable

[sfored]

external wastegates; all by fast intentions..

^strait 3" should be plenty large enough for those turbo's.

but im curious, are those turbo's DBB?? are you running external WG? and where did you get your manifolds/downpipes? custom built by fastintentions?

[ms4cd]

Nice very nice!

[S4 Dan]

nice! looks like some pretty quality work.... how long has this project been going for? good luck man... keep us updated, it'll be interesting to see for sure.... hope everything turns out as good as it looks like its going to [up] [wrench]

[Clay @ Kinetic]

What are the turbo specs?

compressor wheel trim
turbine wheel
turbine housing size

[sfored]

not keeping it secret or anything but I am really not knowledgeable if that area... Innovative Turbo is hooking me up with their goos stuff... I told them I am out to get the GT cars.. can we do it ? He said NO PROBLEM ;) ... I will put it to test...


What are the turbo specs?

compressor wheel trim
turbine wheel
turbine housing size

[revhards4]

im sure they are 50 trims since the 50 trims have the BEST compressor map efficiency out there for smaller displacement motors, refering if your motor is built...1.5L per bank...

[ChumbaWumba]

does anybody know of any updates with this project??? anyone know the owner?

[JDM EJ1 95]

id like to see as well.


what happened to the ABS unit.. are you removing it completely?


you going to be running a maf? or speed density only?


and how tedious is the autronics installation/setup

oh and.. where will the wastegates be mounted.. i cant seem to find them.

[sfored]

well. .. I am about to get some more work on the car... the WG on the drivers side is mounted on the turbo and the other side on the piping to keep the heights symmetrical..

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/4656IMG_3038.JPG

ABS - want to use it but not sure how it will work with Autronics..

Autronics - I bought the harness and SM2 from KTR - they had a single turbo conversion car.. I also bought and will install the 500R - CDI box as well..

[sfored]

owner is cool dude from socal [cool]
whom clearly has issues for having this car in "Project Mode" for the past ..almost 3 years.. [headbang]


well. .. I am about to get some more work on the car... the WG on the drivers side is mounted on the turbo and the other side on the piping to keep the heights symmetrical..

ABS - want to use it but not sure how it will work with Autronics..

Autronics - I bought the harness and SM2 from KTR - they had a single turbo conversion car.. I also bought and will install the 500R - CDI box as well..

[RE5PECT]

wow...

[AudiSportB5S4]

that is sick ! i will trade you those turbos for some great K04s im about to buy ! haha good luck man

[okkim]

Where are you relocating the ABS pump (if still used) and all the other stuff which were in the turbo's place?

That installation looks great, and I'd like too see every photo from it! :)

[JMTx86]

This project has been going on for quite some time BUT wow, it should be crazy, and those DP's should give the guys building the single turbo kit some good ideas. . .

[GURUMAN]

Sick man !

I love custom stuff.

[JDM EJ1 95]

has anything happened on this recently?

[Reich]

Holly s... is that an airplane? I want to by your cup holder ,you no need them anymore. Your drinks will fly to the rear seat. [cool]
Congrats keep us updated and more pics please.

[sfored]

that is sick ! i will trade you those turbos for some great K04s im about to buy ! haha good luck man



LOL...I wish I had done that 3 years ago.. before i sold my K04/RS6 hybrids..and signed up to this BS :)

[sfored]

Where are you relocating the ABS pump (if still used) and all the other stuff which were in the turbo's place?

That installation looks great, and I'd like too see every photo from it! :)



The ABS unit will be separated into 2 parts and put inside the firewall.. small Odyssey will replace the OEM...

[buttermobile]

as soon as the imola beast is done there's going to be gtg in seal beach @ taco surf.[:p]

[RolledMySTi]

^^Maybe in another 6 months:). It's a sick car, but I couldn't be away from my baby for that long.

[BlackSpeed2.0t]

FAST INTENTIONS IS THE SHIT THEY DO some of my work aswell Dani is the man and knows EVERYTHING!

[Dowskeet]

im sure they are 50 trims since the 50 trims have the BEST compressor map efficiency out there for smaller displacement motors, refering if your motor is built...1.5L per bank...

This is definatly a very good point. I wonder if they are dual ball bearing instead of just plain journal bearings. That would definatly help that engine spool those monsters up.

Love to see the bill after this project. Good luck. [up]

[EUROTEK//S4]

looking good man!!! keep up updated ...maybe a teaser vid ?

[lil' is 300]

Wow, this still isn't finished?

[MiniRS4]

Update Plssssss!!!

[sfored]

OK ... here is a bit more update.. NOT too much :)
Started on the Autronic Install; with the 500R.
All Lines done - coolant and oil (feed and drain)

Now Clean up mess - relocate stuff and figura out how to get cluster and ABS to function - Any takers ? Do I need the stock EMS ?

shhh- We started the beast today for the first time in 3 years - Sounded worty every second :)))) Vid next time

http://lh5.google.com/AMosisoglu/R6LWEN3ezKI/AAAAAAAAAX8/XsELuaEVYDI/IMG_2298.JPG
http://lh6.google.com/AMosisoglu/R6LWDd3ezJI/AAAAAAAAAX0/Rl9sIEG5L1Q/IMG_2297.JPG

[joemomma]

AAAHH red X's [:(]

[sfored]

well try this linky. (http://picasaweb.google.com/AMosisoglu/Imola02).. not sure why..

[AMC]

update?

[RogueStatus]

holy hell! subscribing...

[MrTT213]

nothing new?

[esss_pho]

hmmm...i never thought about the relocation kit

[sfored]

Great to hear that some of you keep on asking about updates. Well it is almost (i know i've said this plenty..) there. The Super custom exhaust has been finished and we are onto the wiring. The exhaust is 2- 3" joining into single 4" all the way to the back running a Dynomax exhaust in the back and out... if it is too loud.. we will put in screens or more resonators...

I'll keep the updates coming.. hopefully next will be a video clip...

[sfored]

This is definatly a very good point. I wonder if they are dual ball bearing instead of just plain journal bearings. That would definatly help that engine spool those monsters up.

Love to see the bill after this project. Good luck. [up]


The turbos are definitely dual ceramic BB and the internals are quite different than PJ T3/T4s

[JaredVL]

Speaking of updates, any on the suspension?

I really don't think I should have to keep asking.

[buttermobile]

Speaking of updates, any on the suspension?

I really don't think I should have to keep asking.


here's an update. sfored i'll take you to the drive thru at mcdonalds so you can have something to eat on the dollar menu with all the money you're spending on this super project...i just need a ride in the car there when it's done.

[sfored]

You know I have been thinking about it and it kills me that I paid 1200 for so called sponsored set of blem set of suspension which blew 3 times within 3 months then you decide (nice of you I guess) to give me a set that works ( a lower level of not blem product to do it right). even though it is not a HUGE expense someone had to go through the trouble of installation on every set.

Send me a Fedex or UPS account # and I will send back your set.




Speaking of updates, any on the suspension?

I really don't think I should have to keep asking.

[sfored]

here's an update. sfored i'll take you to the drive thru at mcdonalds so you can have something to eat on the dollar menu with all the money you're spending on this super project...i just need a ride in the car there when it's done.

as long as you are paying... 4 sure

[Skydive@AI]

Damn... Ari!

I wondered what had happened to your car. I'll race you... to see who has a car back on the street first. :) If the spool is reasonable, that car is going to dine on GTs, mine included.

Good luck! I actually drove mine for a few weeks not long ago. Alas, the transmission came apart and is in New Jersey again this week.

Did you get the SM2 to play nice with the factory cluster? Johnny might be able to help with that.

-Michael.

[sfored]

Damn... Ari!

I wondered what had happened to your car. I'll race you... to see who has a car back on the street first. :) If the spool is reasonable, that car is going to dine on GTs, mine included.

Good luck! I actually drove mine for a few weeks not long ago. Alas, the transmission came apart and is in New Jersey again this week.

Did you get the SM2 to play nice with the factory cluster? Johnny might be able to help with that.

-Michael.

True that on the spool..

I heard about your car ... and I heard it was quickkk... tip..burning rubber off a launch -is what i heard :)

I am hoping the Autronics is in good hands.. I am redoing the harness from scratch... and Turbo Joe seems VERY knowledgeable on ANY standalone unit... and I am expecting him to start the car anytime now on the new harness.

Shiet.. if and when this PITA is done ..I will race anyone :) whom rubs me the "right" way :)

[washyourrhands]

i cant wait to see this car!!!

crazyy

[Skydive@AI]

Shiet.. if and when this PITA is done ..I will race anyone :) whom rubs me the "right" way :)

It has taken several years, but I have come to accept that project cars are never really done. They're just drivable, or not. [evilmad]

[sfored]

well fellows ... first video of the car attempting to crank over AND i love it :)
i have more detail videos of the engine compartment as well but taking too long to get in to youtube but will keep you updated...
IMOLA BEAST lives...

[AudiSportB5S4]

get the vidddddddd!!!!

[panix73]

oh snap! congrats! cant wait to see this thing running. please post vid ASAP.

[sfored]

well fellows ... first video of the car attempting to crank over AND i love it :)
i have more detail videos of the engine compartment as well but taking too long to get in to youtube but will keep you updated...

Well it has been a long time in the making and has tested my being in MANY ways but it has finally cranked over (yes from the ignition :)

I will have a full write up on details once we finally get the car rolling around but I wanted to thank everyone whom has made this possible so far... especially to the last person to pick up this project; Turbo Joe. He picked this car up at a point where no one has been able to know where to start.. he knew exactly where to start and ALSO finish. What seemed very frustrating to me (mostly due to my lack of knowledge and experience) was a nice simple puzzle for Joe. Everyday the car is getting some custom Turbo Joe components in it and putting a bigger smile on my face...

BTW, what you hear is with a full custom exhaust; dual custom 3s into a single 4"

Do I hear GI-2 ?


IMOLA BEAST lives... (http://www.vimeo.com/1191636)

[S4 John]

congrats! you are going to have a monster.

[highPSI-S4]

Nice, congrats as well[up]

[YMJ]

did this actually take 3 years?

[AudiSportB5S4]

holllly shit! hey my girlfriend would love the song you have on in the background LOL.

[badassb5]

Nice to see this alive finally! more vids when you get a chance [up]

[YMJ]

so did this actualy take three years???????????????????

[washyourrhands]

WOW!

that is going to be amazing.

cant wait to see some numbers

[kido81]

Did Turbo Joe Ever Live In Ny And Drive A Vw??? He Looks Very Familiar...

[GVR4-201]

Congratz Ari. BTW, this is Luke, who bought your Avant last year :-)

Glad to hear that your baby beast is alive.
I may have to take a trip down to socal again to get a ride :-)

[sfored]

Did Turbo Joe Ever Live In Ny And Drive A Vw??? He Looks Very Familiar...

yup.. that is him.. he is well known in the east and I am sure he will be heard here on the West as well.... soon :)

[sfored]

Congratz Ari. BTW, this is Luke, who bought your Avant last year :-)

Glad to hear that your baby beast is alive.
I may have to take a trip down to socal again to get a ride :-)


Can you say FINALLY :)
Welcome here any time... How is the Avant treating you? Have you pulled any L10 + Stage 3 triggers ?

Look at SkyDives setup - slow but it will do :)

[AMC]

DAMNN lol put the front clip on, tune it and post fuckin videos of it rpping the treads off! lol very unique build

[YMJ]

>>>>>>> Did This Actually Take 3 Years>>>>>>>>>

[Rapter]

LOL... Someone answer this mans question please. [:D]

[sfored]

LOL... Someone answer this mans question please. [:D]

You are asking me to describe orgasm... different for everyone... young Jedi needs to explore his own his own time...

[ss4]

congrats Ari [up] havent seen you in a while....we should race but I'll put you on a 5K rpm limiter LOL
talk soon and hope your project is rolling in a few days[drive]

[YMJ]

WOW, i cant beleive a simple question like "did it actually take 3 years" be answered.. no matter how stupid!! jeezuz.. answer! my gf " why do ppl on this site get.. u know.. so sensative .. including you" LOL

[csre9]

WOW, i cant beleive a simple question like "did it actually take 3 years" be answered.. no matter how stupid!! jeezuz.. answer! my gf " why do ppl on this site get.. u know.. so sensative .. including you" LOL

lol.
I can picture that

[Skydive@AI]

WOW, i cant beleive a simple question like "did it actually take 3 years" be answered.. no matter how stupid!! jeezuz.. answer! my gf " why do ppl on this site get.. u know.. so sensative .. including you" LOL

The question is, why do you care? The man said it took three years. It probably did. Why would you doubt it? If you want to know WHY it took three years, that's probably a better question.

My car took three years too. Why it did is another story, but generally speaking, when you're breaking barriers and trying something new, it takes a lot of planning, trial and error, and favors. When you're asking for help, and reinventing wheels, your project tends to get deprioritized because the folks you're depending on have to make livings in the meantime. Custom work like the kind you see you see in Ari's car is very expensive. If he paid full retail to have it done on a schedule, I'm betting it would have become exponentially more expensive.

Will you stop crying now?

[NoLeafClover]

Did Turbo Joe Ever Live In Ny And Drive A Vw??? He Looks Very Familiar...

yep thats Turbo Joe from NY. what kinda crazy projects is he running over there on the west coast other than this monster?? any more 2.0 monsters??

[sfored]

WOW, i cant beleive a simple question like "did it actually take 3 years" be answered.. no matter how stupid!! jeezuz.. answer! my gf " why do ppl on this site get.. u know.. so sensative .. including you" LOL

Perhaps, my bad... yeah it took well over 3 years, because there is very little that is NOT custom on the car.. It would have been much simpler and shorter to build had I not wanted a monster which I can daily drive .. the ultimate sleeper with A/C and Radio, stock cluster, ABS on Stand Alone, CDI box, launch control, anti-lag etc.. etc.. kinda best of both world (IMO)

Making room for the turbos was not easy either... well room was easy the relocation of Power Steering, ABS, Coolant reservoir, brake reservoir ...

Not to mention that there were too many cooks in the kitchen before Chef Joe ...

[ToMMyRsK04]

and what exactly was done with the " Power Steering, ABS, Coolant reservoir, brake reservoir ... " ?

[ToMMyRsK04]

and what are you using for a FMIC ??

[YMJ]

Perhaps, my bad... yeah it took well over 3 years, because there is very little that is NOT custom on the car.. It would have been much simpler and shorter to build had I not wanted a monster which I can daily drive .. the ultimate sleeper with A/C and Radio, stock cluster, ABS on Stand Alone, CDI box, launch control, anti-lag etc.. etc.. kinda best of both world (IMO)

Making room for the turbos was not easy either... well room was easy the relocation of Power Steering, ABS, Coolant reservoir, brake reservoir ...

Not to mention that there were too many cooks in the kitchen before Chef Joe ...

WOO FINALLY! kk.. thanks! so do you mind if i ask how much you've invested in this? im just wondering, if something took three years, what the cost would be like! and is there an end in site?? i would actually love to know what this car will put out! (dyno numbers) what's u're target? 800awhp? 900?

[Skydive@AI]

...the ultimate sleeper with A/C and Radio, stock cluster, ABS on Stand Alone, CDI box, launch control, anti-lag etc...

Ari,

Indeed, that is an achievement. OE ABS and the OE Instruments on a standalone is no simple task. Is there an ESP/EDL defeat in place to allow ABS to continue working too? I assume that your Motronic ECU is running in parallel in some way?

Indeed, this Turbo Joe knows his stuff.

-Michael.

[sfored]

and what exactly was done with the " Power Steering, ABS, Coolant reservoir, brake reservoir ... " ?

PS - custom SSteel reservoir build by Joe - Size of a red bull can.
ABS- Relocated inside the firewall
Brake Res - Inside the firewall - lines rerouted from ABS

You can see all better in this clip (http://www.vimeo.com/1197345)

[sfored]

Cost A LOT over the years... 1 piece of advice I shall give to ANYONE whom wants to take on a job like this - do not think you can save $$$ by having A, B, C, D to various parts of the task. Have 1 person whom will take on the project from A to Z from day 1. Otherwise you will be stuck like me at the mercy of bunch of idiots whom know how to start a job but in reality do not have a clue in how to finish it... again A to Z.

HP - we'll see - I am not building a dyno queen - the A/R and the turbos I've chosen, copression on my motor, etc.. I am hoping to have a street drivable car that can make something like 600 whp on 91 :) and 700 to 800 whp (or more ) on C16. The setup is capable of doing over 1000 hp if I mod my turbos but it will be a dyno queen, single purpose drag car, which I am hoping to avoid... Supras are great for that :)

[sfored]

Ari,

Indeed, that is an achievement. OE ABS and the OE Instruments on a standalone is no simple task. Is there an ESP/EDL defeat in place to allow ABS to continue working too? I assume that your Motronic ECU is running in parallel in some way?

Indeed, this Turbo Joe knows his stuff.

-Michael.

Come on bro... we all know the ritual.. get in the car... start the car... hi that F'in ESP button :))... but wait you are right if it is raining or showing - believe me I have 0 intentions of driving this thing in the snow :)

[ToMMyRsK04]

the video wont play .. and what type of front mount are you running ?

[b00st]

props on this crazy build [up]
love to see people breaking out of the box!

[kido81]

Actually I Know Joe From Zrp In Queens. I'm A Friend Of Joe Zrp.. I Used To Bring My Talon To Him When I Had It...

[sfored]

side mount ERs

[sfored]

Actually I Know Joe From Zrp In Queens. I'm A Friend Of Joe Zrp.. I Used To Bring My Talon To Him When I Had It...

Not the 9 sec Talon .. Are you ?

[ToMMyRsK04]

do you think 2 side mount ER's will be efficient for when the cars pushing around 1000hp ??

[Skydive@AI]

do you think 2 side mount ER's will be efficient for when the cars pushing around 1000hp ??

For the moment, side mount ERs have proven to be the best of the options. Front mount designs present many issues, and the ERs have repeatedly proven superior performance.

I believe ER is working on a front mount design, and I'll be interested in the results. However, I think we'll start to see significant advances in intercooling for these cars if and when someone builds a properly designed air to water solution.

-Michael.

[YMJ]

Cost A LOT over the years... 1 piece of advice I shall give to ANYONE whom wants to take on a job like this - do not think you can save $$$ by having A, B, C, D to various parts of the task. Have 1 person whom will take on the project from A to Z from day 1. Otherwise you will be stuck like me at the mercy of bunch of idiots whom know how to start a job but in reality do not have a clue in how to finish it... again A to Z.

HP - we'll see - I am not building a dyno queen - the A/R and the turbos I've chosen, copression on my motor, etc.. I am hoping to have a street drivable car that can make something like 600 whp on 91 :) and 700 to 800 whp (or more ) on C16. The setup is capable of doing over 1000 hp if I mod my turbos but it will be a dyno queen, single purpose drag car, which I am hoping to avoid... Supras are great for that :)

well i hope this finishes ASAP!! and you get some EXCELLENT power and numbers!! i would love to see u're numbers on race gas!!!!

[kido81]

9sec was kuz.... he sould actually know my brother well " yellow mike" (b/c of his car)

[sfored]

OK .. Got some more juice making components...
http://lh6.ggpht.com/AMosisoglu/SHKJMKmbQwI/AAAAAAAAAdI/_w1llEMCfk8/injectors-2.JPG?imgmax=576

Anyone using these :) ?

[317ssayzarc]

how many cc's? high impeadence or low?

[sfored]

1000cc - Low imp.


how many cc's? high impeadence or low?

[GURUMAN]

FU%K, I'll be running 750cc[o_o]

[sfored]

FU%K, I'll be running 750cc[o_o]

i had the 630s... but turns out my autronic box is low imp.. and my Siemens Dekas were 630 hi imp.

Are your hi or low ? hi 750s are prob. par with 1000 low imp....

[GURUMAN]

low, but 034 system can run both

[GURUMAN]

I have a set of high 630cc

and a set of low 750's

[sfored]

I have a set of high 630cc

and a set of low 750's

Mike (simpply) was running their box with good success... not sure what type if injectors... but ???

I had several conversations with Javad as well .. but i already had most of the standalone components... so stuck to Autrontic
...variety is good - will give everyone an opportunity to learn from our setups.. n F ups..

[GURUMAN]

According to Javad, he was running maxed out 630cc

I know, I basically have the equivalant as simpply, I will star with his map

[sfored]

According to Javad, he was running maxed out 630cc

I know, I basically have the equivalent as simpply, I will star with his map

nice.. you should do at least decent :)

You running a fancy fuel setup like him or drop in 044 ? stock rail etc ?

and i was bummed that the Black beast had disappeared before the Imola Beast ever showed up :))

who did your lines etc ? Jawad ? Maan .. He sent me some stuff - all good intentions but I could not use any of it...

[S4 John]

when is your car going to be finished?

[sfored]

when is your car going to be finished?

that is the million $ Q.. well more like $.50 if I am paying..

Soon I hope .. I will take to Turbo Joe my injectors tonight and hopefully if he has wrapped what he was supposed to... mostly cluster wiring and internal gauges .. and some F up on the tranny line up issue...

I am almost ready to break the F'er in... without headlight for now ... but I'll worry about that once I get the car running..

[317ssayzarc]

nice injector choice [up], same thing ill be running on my a4 after waterfest...

[GURUMAN]

nice.. you should do at least decent :)

You running a fancy fuel setup like him or drop in 044 ? stock rail etc ?

and i was bummed that the Black beast had disappeared before the Imola Beast ever showed up :))

who did your lines etc ? Jawad ? Maan .. He sent me some stuff - all good intentions but I could not use any of it...

I switched from walbro255 to bosh 044 drop in.

Custom fuel rails by 034 with an aeromotive ajustable fpr.

Kind of semi custom

[sfored]

OK Some S4 S Video - Exhaust at Idle and a few revs (http://www.vimeo.com/1301323)

[michael66899]

Sounds amazing! Its so exotic, almost (dare I say it) ferrari like... What mufflers are you using just out of curiosity?

[JMTx86]

Sounds good.

[lil' is 300]

Sounds amazing! Its so exotic, almost (dare I say it) ferrari like... What mufflers are you using just out of curiosity?

Crotch rocket sound is more a result of the tubular header style than the actual muffler. Sounds absolutely incredible nonetheless! [hail]

[AMC]

did i hear " uh oh"

lol sounds great now tune it lol

[sfored]

that is on vr 6 injectors ... will be putting in the above injectors soon... today ?

[sfored]

Crotch rocket sound is more a result of the tubular header style than the actual muffler. Sounds absolutely incredible nonetheless! [hail]

No man .. CAMS and Exhaust ..

Tubular is waaaaay at the begining.. that be the case if it was open DP

[GURUMAN]

[:D]

Me have cams,

Me have exhaust...

Me want same sound

[Europowerhaus]

im rocking the delphi 96lbers as well, should be plenty of fuel

[Europowerhaus]

thats a sick setup, looks like we might have a "R1 eater!"

[turbojoe]

HI everybody...I'm very pleased that some off you appreciated the sound of Arris S4 it was not a job ,but adventure to tell you the truth cos the fitment off 2 3in DP going to 4in mandrel bend piping and fitting 2 muffler boxes on a S4 is not easy task..I'm not necessary call my self exhaust fabricator ,I'm a engine builder and stand alone management tuner but i always do all my fabrications my self ..inter cooler piping DP ,exhaust systems act. I like to thanks Arri for the recognition of the job i did so far on his car ,as he mentioned is not easy to pick up where many other throw a towel down..i was originally hired for wiring and tuning stand alone management , but he seamed a little bit upset with his project cos people start giving up on his car so i hawed decided to finish all since my speciality in east coast was VW Audi and yet I'm building lot off turbo Honda's here in west cost ....it is my pleasure to finish hi car but truth be told i wish i started the project from the beginning my self cos i would did some things different but i work with what it is and tried do my best to make him happy[wrench]

[turbojoe]

Sounds amazing! Its so exotic, almost (dare I say it) ferrari like... What mufflers are you using just out of curiosity?

it is a full SS piping with Borla straight thru muffler and in addition at the end Magnaflow straight thru muffler cos Arri warn me specifically that he don't want the car to be loud

[turbojoe]

yep thats Turbo Joe from NY. what kinda crazy projects is he running over there on the west coast other than this monster?? any more 2.0 monsters??

Well i don't like to insult anybody but cali WV Audi scene is not as serious as east coast , I'm not talking about looks but balls .Everybody like to make power but limitation off at most K04 and chip = impossible so far Arri is the first Audi that is serious about making a statement so far i did turbo R32 and 2 20th anniversary 1.8T with fully built engine and stand alone . I'm bit disappointed but rest is all turbo and N/A Honda's But also proud to say I'm tuning lots of porsche cars for local shop in the valley can you say people got balls $100 k cars like porsche on stand alone yet somebody is stile entusiastic in investing in German cars [up]

[sfored]

[:D]

Me have cams,

Me have exhaust...

Me want same sound

what cams ?

[sfored]

Joe...thx for finally stepping up...
YO - the crowd - I mean this VERY sincerely that you all wish that you have a Joe in your corner...

This guy took this project on - after MANY have started but could not finish the project.

He has been nothing but knowledgeable and "creating" - while many talk about how it could be done...Joe was doing... refreshing for a change.

A little background on Joe - he is orginally from the east coast... thankfully he is now on the West...

Standalone ???? He is the man.. sounds like I am stroking him but.... he deserves it.

He is doing things, people talk about .. but never accomplish...

He has done my wiring... exhaust.. and soon hopefully my tunning .. among a 100 other screwed BS by other shops...


He said my car would be the FASTEST --- :-) LOL...J/K
this weekend ____:-) LOL REALLY :))

[GURUMAN]

I have Ringlord in my corner, the guy running a single gt35r 2.7 audi...


what cams ?

I went with 2.8 OEM cams, same duration but a bit more lift than RS4's.

To many bad stories about revolver...

[sfored]

Single turbo - Nice !!
That should be hell of a setup too... The evos at 2.3 2.5 L spin that thing like they are K04s... so the Audi 2.7 should too and make plenty of power...
Is his car running ? If yes - Any power #s ?

Do you have 1st hand knowledge of the revolver cams ? or the grapevine? I know the grapevine sucks on them.. but Whipple swore up n down that on a stand alone cams should make power... we'll see.. I questioned him plenty of times but got no responds from him lately..

Do you know the #s on the cams?

Jason(whipple) told me there are 2 versions of the cams .. mine being the aggressive ones... but dunno what the numbers from the cam page mean? with respect to my car since I have no idea which ones I have:

Duration / Intake: 248º
Duration / Exhaust: 258º
Valve Lift / Intake: 8.9 mm
Valve Lift / Exhaust: 10.5 mm

[wrench]



I have Ringlord in my corner, the guy running a single gt35r 2.7 audi...



I went with 2.8 OEM cams, same duration but a bit more lift than RS4's.

To many bad stories about revolver...

[GURUMAN]

No number but I have this for comparison:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w189/domy954/dom055.jpg

[sfored]

this what vs. what .. sorry ... me dodo

[GURUMAN]

Left 2.8 // right S4

[Reich]

Could'nt be here lately, but that sure is a beast. Congrats with the car.

[GURUMAN]

Updates ?

[GURUMAN]

Bump

[team_soy]

gawd i want that exhaust note

[Turkish]

Where does your last name come from?

[sfored]

Where does your last name come from?

where does your screen name come from ?

[NastyNogaro]

where did this thread come from?

[Turkish]

where does your screen name come from ?

Take a wild guess
lol!

[jibberjive]

where did this thread come from?

1912

[Turkish]

1912

And it seems like its going to be a huge thread in a couple days, seeing jib and I are commenting at 3 in the mornin'

And did you know your location says SLUT ? :)

[jibberjive]

Lol, I think that other thread is going to take away any hugeness of reviving this old one;)

[jibberjive]

And did you know your location says SLUT ? :)
Good eye[:p]

[obijohn22]

back from the dead....lol

[NYCVR6]

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=690230

[highPSI-S4]

Damn.

[washyourrhands]

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=690230

HOLY SHIT

[amd is the best]

HOLY SHIT

So its done? lol

[sfored]

So its done? lol

The deed (HPFs) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MVDIuUo1oY&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fuser%2FTwinT3S 4&feature=player_profilepage)or the car ?
well both are done :)

[amd is the best]

The deed (HPFs) or the car ?
well both are done :)

I meant your car. Any completed pics for us? [:)]

[sfored]

I meant your car. Any completed pics for us? [:)]

well this vid shows the under the hood and the dyno pull. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9fCX0cOObM).. as for the cosmetics... I am still working on the F'ing head lights cluster Fu$K...

[amd is the best]

well this vid shows the under the hood and the dyno pull. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9fCX0cOObM).. as for the cosmetics... I am still working on the F'ing head lights cluster Fu$K...

Thanks man! Badass!

[skunkoncrunk]

I want to see a video of the speedo climbing.

[tike0rz]

I want to be subscribed to this thread. Lots of awesomeness going on.

[TheyCallMeARI]

sick set up i believe i saw some videos on vimeo on this

[sean1.8t]

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=690230

no fucking way!

Sfored: when you gonna post up your dyno plots?

[Don Supreme]

no fucking way!

Sfored: when you gonna post up your dyno plots?

That was done several weeks ago.

[shorterthanrich]

Neeeds mooooore videosssss

[sfored]

Neeeds mooooore videosssss

yet another dyno pull (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWp9pOSR290)

[sfored]

I want to see a video of the speedo climbing.

You ask and you shall...well sometimes :) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWp9pOSR290)

[shorterthanrich]

Friggin terrifying, man. Very nice numbers, too. But the sound/intensity/terror is the best part.

We need a launch video.

[TweetsS4Estate]

You ask and you shall...well sometimes :) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWp9pOSR290)
I really like the set up, If/when I go GT's I think thats where I'll put em and go with some smaller AR GT30s Awsome job, send my regards to your builder!

[sfored]

I really like the set up, If/when I go GT's I think thats where I'll put em and go with some smaller AR GT30s Awsome job, send my regards to your builder!

:-P how is .36 A/R and a tiny bit bigger than GT30s ? [evilsmile]

[TweetsS4Estate]

:-P how is .36 A/R and a tiny bit bigger than GT30s ? [evilsmile]

It is bad ass. What is nice about your set up is, you blow a turbo and you can change it quickly. BAdaboom badabang and its out. No more pulling the motor or any of that rediculousness. I didn't read for it but did you go with water to air on your ERs? What was your most difficult thing to locate and where did you put it. If you don't mind me prying.

[AudiSportB5S4]

You ask and you shall...well sometimes :) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWp9pOSR290)

WOW [o_o] - that speedo moves! God dam!

[ThirdStrike]

WOW [o_o] - that speedo moves! God dam!

yeah im amazed. [hail]

[AudiSportB5S4]

yeah im amazed. [hail]

Up top its like a train... That BMW thread was a great read. My M3 haz moar horzez..

One guy said the B5 S4 was the ugliest car ever... lol. Oh well [>_<]

[sfored]

It is bad ass. What is nice about your set up is, you blow a turbo and you can change it quickly. BAdaboom badabang and its out. No more pulling the motor or any of that rediculousness. I didn't read for it but did you go with water to air on your ERs? What was your most difficult thing to locate and where did you put it. If you don't mind me prying.

did not but - i need to do something bec. after 1 pull the ER's bottom tank is on fire... we decided we are gonna do either liquid to air or met or both ..

Change since last dyno -Custom Coil upgrade - Gained over 100+ WHP in lower RPMs. And peaked 665 awhp at the same boost.

On 34 psi - we were into 700+ But stopped due to MORE necessary fuel upgrade...next - will keep tath together with Meth :-P

[sfored]

Up top its like a train... That BMW thread was a great read. My M3 haz moar horzez..

One guy said the B5 S4 was the ugliest car ever... lol. Oh well [>_<]

i need to fix the F'in headlights - should not be that tough (*crossing fingers*) but then again - no one ever sees the headlights any way -all tail lights :) [:D]

On the second run from his in-car camera - i still reeled him in and pulled.

w/o talking crap about his car - i think to my semi-surprise the HPFs (Stage1,2,3_ can not touch my car up top and that is saying a lot for my setup...we were playing in the 160s 170s...

[espo4442]

did not but - i need to do something bec. after 1 pull the ER's bottom tank is on fire... we decided we are gonna do either liquid to air or met or both ..

Change since last dyno -Custom Coil upgrade - Gained over 100+ WHP in lower RPMs. And peaked 665 awhp at the same boost.

On 34 psi - we were into 700+ But stopped due to MORE necessary fuel upgrade...next - will keep tath together with Meth :-P


Please explain to me what you mean by custom coil upgrade (same exact voltage?), and how you gains over 100 WHP in lower rpm's?[o_o]

[sfored]

Please explain to me what you mean by custom coil upgrade (same exact voltage?), and how you gains over 100 WHP in lower rpm's?[o_o]


Individual Coils
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/20090801105321_1_.jpg



Old map vs. New (Same 31 psi Boost
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/20090801133304_3_.jpg

[wdbdy2000s4]

there you go ari. that powerband looks better. extra 500rpms over the 600whp mark to play with.[up]

[Charlescrs6]

What's the GT equivalent of those turbos?

[sfored]

What's the GT equivalent of those turbos?

>28s [evilsmile] and others ..

[Big Boost]

You went out of sight on that M3 in the first run. Damn. That's all I have to say.

[GURUMAN]

Nice, nice, nice, BAMFTT'S

You will see in the lower Rpm, I wont fall flat ( off boost ) when you shif second, that's the most critical part when racing from a dig.

That's how I kill all of them...

[Don Supreme]

So Ari, what does the car do on 1 -2 shifts? The S4 second gear is so long that it probably falls on its face. No?

[Tech/Sales@VAST]

>28s [evilsmile] and others ..There's like 20 different GT28 Variations[:D].. My guess would put them closer to the larger GT2871ss offered with a little larger comp wheel..

[sfored]

So Ari, what does the car do on 1 -2 shifts? The S4 second gear is so long that it probably falls on its face. No?

If I shift hard enough (feels soo horrible but sooo good :)) leaves some rubber on the asphalt - pulls like a freight train.

Keep in mind I rev to 8,200; I usually observe 8K-shift... it usually end up in the 6,000-6,200 range - where have plenty of power unless I am granny shifting but that means I am not racing :). On 3rd to 4th is lands about 6,600...yummm. I granny shift that gear often bec. i am afraid the clutch will give. so I let it fully engage then get into it.

[sfored]

There's like 20 different GT28 Variations[:D].. My guess would put them closer to the larger GT2871ss offered with a little larger comp wheel..

All GT28s < Imola Beast .. [evilsmile]

OK-Cocky but it all comes from excitement

[sfored]

Nice, nice, nice, BAMFTT'S

You will see in the lower Rpm, I wont fall flat ( off boost ) when you shif second, that's the most critical part when racing from a dig.

That's how I kill all of them...

Dude - no one has dared to race from a dig thus far. I have Twin Turbo Vettes; 1100rwhp M3s (umm $hit load of "claimed" hp over me)...they want rolllll races... ? [confused] ?

I will post up some smoookey :) launch vids later on .. with 1st/2nd...

Cant wait till I get some sort of cooling into the ICs... the bottom end tank of the ICs are on fire after 1 pull...do you have similar issues?

[Reich]

Sorry to be retarded here. Did you brought her to the track yet? Probably not hein? There's still some tuning tunig to do right?
Very nice setup you have there. Congratulation. Do you have any idea of how you will make your head lights? That will be a very intersting part also.
I'm pretty sure that you would have kill that m3 really bad from a dig.

[Don Supreme]

Sorry to be retarded here. Did you brought her to the track yet? Probably not hein? There's still some tuning tunig to do right?
Very nice setup you have there. Congratulation. Do you have any idea of how you will make your head lights? That will be a very intersting part also.
I'm pretty sure that you would have kill that m3 really bad from a dig.

He did, but it broke the rear diff.

[sfored]

So Ari, what does the car do on 1 -2 shifts? The S4 second gear is so long that it probably falls on its face. No?

on the contrary - i'd want longer 1st and second... and shorter 3rd and 4th ..

[blackbenzz]

Dude - no one has dared to race from a dig thus far. I have Twin Turbo Vettes; 1100rwhp M3s (umm $hit load of "claimed" hp over me)...they want rolllll races... ? [confused] ?

I will post up some smoookey :) launch vids later on .. with 1st/2nd...

Cant wait till I get some sort of cooling into the ICs... the bottom end tank of the ICs are on fire after 1 pull...do you have similar issues?

That 1320' of black pavement is daring you.

Your car is fast, but not fast enough to warrant as much talking as you do. "no one has dared to race from a dig " If you were on the east coast I know a few cars that would humble you real quick. I'm sure there are plenty on the west coast too. Once you get some 1/4 mile times we will see how badass your car really is. You talk like you drive a 7s car lol

[shorterthanrich]

That 1320' of black pavement is daring you.

Your car is fast, but not fast enough to warrant as much talking as you do. "no one has dared to race from a dig " If you were on the east coast I know a few cars that would humble you real quick. I'm sure there are plenty on the west coast too. Once you get some 1/4 mile times we will see how badass your car really is. You talk like you drive a 7s car lol

He's talking big, but I think he's mostly just super pumped about it. He's said it a few times (to paraphrase) 'I know I'm being cocky I'm just really excited about it.'

The car is pretty damned fast, though...

[sfored]

That 1320' of black pavement is daring you.

Your car is fast, but not fast enough to warrant as much talking as you do. "no one has dared to race from a dig " If you were on the east coast I know a few cars that would humble you real quick. I'm sure there are plenty on the west coast too. Once you get some 1/4 mile times we will see how badass your car really is. You talk like you drive a 7s car lol

ohh yeay I fogot - this is AZ - you guys can not be impressed with a solid 10 sec car ... gotta bring the 7s into this ... riggght !!!

and LOL back at you - @118 -sideways ?

[sfored]

That 1320' of black pavement is daring you.

Your car is fast, but not fast enough to warrant as much talking as you do. "no one has dared to race from a dig " If you were on the east coast I know a few cars that would humble you real quick. I'm sure there are plenty on the west coast too. Once you get some 1/4 mile times we will see how badass your car really is. You talk like you drive a 7s car lol

and besides - I was mostly talking about theM3s and the Vettes... I am "usually" a lot more respectful of my kind [;)] - fellow S4s

I agree - East has more balls but that much more KB racers too..

[laxman851]

That 1320' of black pavement is daring you.

Your car is fast, but not fast enough to warrant as much talking as you do. "no one has dared to race from a dig " If you were on the east coast I know a few cars that would humble you real quick. I'm sure there are plenty on the west coast too. Once you get some 1/4 mile times we will see how badass your car really is. You talk like you drive a 7s car lol

You're talking like you know how everything goes down everywhere. I do like your car though, lol.

[Pink Shrimp]

That 1320' of black pavement is daring you.

Your car is fast, but not fast enough to warrant as much talking as you do. "no one has dared to race from a dig " If you were on the east coast I know a few cars that would humble you real quick. I'm sure there are plenty on the west coast too. Once you get some 1/4 mile times we will see how badass your car really is. You talk like you drive a 7s car lol

how do you know who or what would humble him real quick if you don't even know what he's capable of?

Far as Im concerned, anyone running this much power can talk all they want in their own thread on this bullshit, full of kids site called AZ.

[blackbenzz]

ohh yeay I fogot - this is AZ - you guys can not be impressed with a solid 10 sec car ... gotta bring the 7s into this ... riggght !!!

and LOL back at you - @118 -sideways ?

I didn't say I wont be impressed by a solid 10s car but in the big picture is a solid 10 second car really that fast to make you so cocky? I have a feeling your car will drop out of boost on your 1-2 shift,lets just call it a hunch based on your dyno graphs and S4 gearing. If I had to run you and I got to choose a dig or roll I would definitely take the dig race

Not sure why you are laughing at the 118 sideways thing. Its hard to read peoples intentions on the internet. Me and my friends got a big kick out of it too. If you are impressed with a solid 10s pump car, I guess you should be impressed with mine. It's just fun to run a 12.5 at a 45 degree angle down the track lighting up the tires and staying in it lol


You're talking like you know how everything goes down everywhere. I do like your car though, lol.

I dont know how everything goes down everywhere. I'm saying I want to see some track numbers in order to really see how fast it is. I'm sure there are faster cars in Cali. Not everyone is scared to run him. And thanks lol


how do you know who or what would humble him real quick if you don't even know what he's capable of?

Far as Im concerned, anyone running this much power can talk all they want in their own thread on this bullshit, full of kids site called AZ.

Because I know what it's not capable of and after losing a race he wouldn't be so cocky.

He isn't just cocky in his own threads... lol @ AZ comment, I agree about the site

[sfored]

I didn't say I wont be impressed by a solid 10s car but in the big picture is a solid 10 second car really that fast to make you so cocky? I have a feeling your car will drop out of boost on your 1-2 shift,lets just call it a hunch based on your dyno graphs and S4 gearing. If I had to run you and I got to choose a dig or roll I would definitely take the dig race

Not sure why you are laughing at the 118 sideways thing. Its hard to read peoples intentions on the internet. Me and my friends got a big kick out of it too. If you are impressed with a solid 10s pump car, I guess you should be impressed with mine. It's just fun to run a 12.5 at a 45 degree angle down the track lighting up the tires and staying in it lol



I dont know how everything goes down everywhere. I'm saying I want to see some track numbers in order to really see how fast it is. I'm sure there are faster cars in Cali. Not everyone is scared to run him. And thanks lol



Because I know what it's not capable of and after losing a race he wouldn't be so cocky.

He isn't just cocky in his own threads... lol @ AZ comment, I agree about the site


um - mr know nothing - this below is from 05 - 11.6 @120 @LACR sooo what you talking about ??? (http://www.s4biturbo.com/files/ari11_6.jpg)

I am not here to impress NO one on pump etc... I come to a gun fight with at least a gun ... so having said that do YOU KNOW anyone is socal who may and or will snap off my cockiness ? because i could use the humbling - j/k -lol/well semi :))

[sfored]

falling on my face 1st second (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iyiOSnVL8o)

[AudiSportB5S4]

falling on my face 1st second (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iyiOSnVL8o)

You need to really fix that, god I think a stage 2 K03 car could beat your ass....... HAHA J/K. No falling on any face any time with that car it sounds like [o_o] [race]

[AudiTechS4]

i think you should just punch blackbenz in the vagina. hes got a fast car . who cares if it beats you or your homo friends . shoooooooosh

[blackbenzz]

um - mr know nothing - this below is from 05 - 11.6 @120 @LACR sooo what you talking about ??? (http://www.s4biturbo.com/files/ari11_6.jpg)

I am not here to impress NO one on pump etc... I come to a gun fight with at least a gun ... so having said that do YOU KNOW anyone is socal who may and or will snap off my cockiness ? because i could use the humbling - j/k -lol/well semi :))

Whats the point of that time slip? I don't get it [confused]

Looks like there isnt as much lag as I thought on 1-2 shift. My hunch was wrong, I can admit that. It doesnt make much sense but the vid proves it. I still think it would be cool to see what it runs at the track. No I dont know anyone in socal to set up a run with. Two people I know of that should give you a good run are simmply and mike hood but I do not personally know them.

Sorry to all the sfored nutswingers for asking your idol to take his car to the track. It's not about my car vs. his, it's to see how his car compares to others (such as Mike Hood, the VR6T car, etc etc). AZ reminds me of high school with all the little groups. Is it wrong to want to see a car run at the track?

[GURUMAN]

Hooking water/meth even if your on race gas will help a lot in cooling the air.

Your ER's will still be hot as hell, because you inject the sauce right before the TB so basically after them...

On my built, it dropped the iat's with a good 15 degrees at WOT, but it altered my AFR a bit on the rich side...

It all depends if your running open or closed loop with your widebands...

[sfored]

Whats the point of that time slip? I don't get it [confused]

Looks like there isnt as much lag as I thought on 1-2 shift. My hunch was wrong, I can admit that. It doesnt make much sense but the vid proves it. I still think it would be cool to see what it runs at the track. No I dont know anyone in socal to set up a run with. Two people I know of that should give you a good run are simmply and mike hood but I do not personally know them.

Sorry to all the sfored nutswingers for asking your idol to take his car to the track. It's not about my car vs. his, it's to see how his car compares to others (such as Mike Hood, the VR6T car, etc etc). AZ reminds me of high school with all the little groups. Is it wrong to want to see a car run at the track?

Dude - I am all about the track; i went to Fontana few weeks ago; snapped a rear diff in half - I was literally picking up gears from the track...got another rear diff the same day and went back to the track all with in 5 hours. but the track closed early because it was too hot... and you are still questioning my enthusiasm and talking crap about my setup vs other setups you have NO idea about.

Oh almost forgot.. the point of that 4+ year old time slip @11.6 @120 .. I could do that allll day long - going straight - no drama...sideways ? OKKKK

Simpply is happening a few weeks down the line - not sure if he will have his S4 or some other "surprise" [;)] for me .

Hood - soon

I am working on upgrading my fueling; cool the ICs down.. then rock n roll.

[sfored]

Hooking water/meth even if your on race gas will help a lot in cooling the air.

Your ER's will still be hot as hell, because you inject the sauce right before the TB so basically after them...

On my built, it dropped the iat's with a good 15 degrees at WOT, but it altered my AFR a bit on the rich side...

It all depends if your running open or closed loop with your widebands...

well - precisely ! - that is why I was going to tap the pipes feeding the ICs so that I can cool them down there and cool down the entire system - no ?

[GURUMAN]

well - precisely ! - that is why I was going to tap the pipes feeding the ICs so that I can cool them down there and cool down the entire system - no ?


Na, not good acording to snow performance, I could possibly make water accumulation in the pipes.

You have to mount it as close as the TB possible

[sfored]

Na, not good acording to snow performance, I could possibly make water accumulation in the pipes.

You have to mount it as close as the TB possible

I am not much the "knowledge" here but my homeboy tuner was saying something like if there are any left overs...it will cool the motor down in the combustion chamber.

Do you have it regulated by boost or ? on at all times ?

[GURUMAN]

I am not much the "knowledge" here but my homeboy tuner was saying something like if there are any left overs...it will cool the motor down in the combustion chamber.

Do you have it regulated by boost or ? on at all times ?

regulated by map signal/boost

switchee on at 10 psi linear/increased to be maxxed out at 20 psi

Really simple to install.

On my 034 setup, I havent still hook up my widebands, so I'm running open loop, no 02 correction at all.

This will change this week

[sfored]

regulated by map signal/boost

switchee on at 10 psi linear/increased to be maxxed out at 20 psi

Really simple to install.

On my 034 setup, I havent still hook up my widebands, so I'm running open loop, no 02 correction at all.

This will change this week

I too am open loop.. I I prefer to stay that way - I think the results are more consistent and if your o2s ever take a $hit you are not screwed. My drivaibility is very very good without any 02 feedback ..

[GURUMAN]

I too am open loop.. I I prefer to stay that way - I think the results are more consistent and if your o2s ever take a $hit you are not screwed. My drivaibility is very very good without any 02 feedback ..


Nice I did only monitor on the dyno, but hadnt have a chance to install everything in my car...

It's very stable and consistent too at the moment, but still running under 30 psi...

I do everything step by step.

A lot of people on the forums dont really understand that, In montreal, I'm fortunate to have 3 track within 30 min driving opened at night...

[sfored]

Nice I did only monitor on the dyno, but hadnt have a chance to install everything in my car...

It's very stable and consistent too at the moment, but still running under 30 psi...

I do everything step by step.

A lot of people on the forums dont really understand that, In montreal, I'm fortunate to have 3 track within 30 min driving opened at night...

lucky bastage ... and for certain there is something to be said for ...patience - even though this car has tested mine to the limits ...MANY times .

[blackbenzz]

Dude - I am all about the track; i went to Fontana few weeks ago; snapped a rear diff in half - I was literally picking up gears from the track...got another rear diff the same day and went back to the track all with in 5 hours. but the track closed early because it was too hot... and you are still questioning my enthusiasm and talking crap about my setup vs other setups you have NO idea about.

Oh almost forgot.. the point of that 4+ year old time slip @11.6 @120 .. I could do that allll day long - going straight - no drama...sideways ? OKKKK

Simpply is happening a few weeks down the line - not sure if he will have his S4 or some other "surprise" [;)] for me .

Hood - soon

I am working on upgrading my fueling; cool the ICs down.. then rock n roll.
Relax, I didn't question your enthusiasm and I didn't talk crap about your setup. If you think that I'm talking crap about your setup I must have chosen my words incorrectly. I did say you are cocky and that I'd like to see some track times. It seems like you agree with me on those 2. Sucks about the diff, that is alot of dedication though [up]

If you are trying to impress me with an 11.6 @ 120... I'm not impressed. The whole sideways thing is a joke, I got bored watching my friends run at the track so I decided to run my car twice on street tires the same way I run it on the street for shits and giggles. First run I came off the line soft and ran quicker and faster than 11.6 @ 120 (street tire, pump gas, no nitrous). Then I tried to launch the second time and it got sideways, I was havin fun so I stayed in it and was practically facing the car in the lane next to me as I went down the track til I finally caught traction. Lets just say last time I did a track rental I ran 7 or 8 times, ALL 10s passes. If anyone has seen me run they can tell you I run VERY consistent times with absolutely no drama. To be honest they look like 13s passes watching it on video LOL

I cant wait to see the runs but even more anxious about the track times. I should be in Cali in a few weeks so maybe I can check out the runs with simmply and meet you two. Good luck [drive]

[shorterthanrich]

Relax, I didn't question your enthusiasm and I didn't talk crap about your setup. If you think that I'm talking crap about your setup I must have chosen my words incorrectly. I did say you are cocky and that I'd like to see some track times. It seems like you agree with me on those 2. Sucks about the diff, that is alot of dedication though [up]

If you are trying to impress me with an 11.6 @ 120... I'm not impressed. The whole sideways thing is a joke, I got bored watching my friends run at the track so I decided to run my car twice on street tires the same way I run it on the street for shits and giggles. First run I came off the line soft and ran quicker and faster than 11.6 @ 120 (street tire, pump gas, no nitrous). Then I tried to launch the second time and it got sideways, I was havin fun so I stayed in it and was practically facing the car in the lane next to me as I went down the track til I finally caught traction. Lets just say last time I did a track rental I ran 7 or 8 times, ALL 10s passes. If anyone has seen me run they can tell you I run VERY consistent times with absolutely no drama. To be honest they look like 13s passes watching it on video LOL

I cant wait to see the runs but even more anxious about the track times. I should be in Cali in a few weeks so maybe I can check out the runs with simmply and meet you two. Good luck [drive]

I'm glad the misunderstandings can be cleared up [up]

I think he showed the 11.6 @ 120 just to show what it could do way before it was even close to the level he's at now, that's all.

[sfored]

I'm glad the misunderstandings can be cleared up [up]

I think he showed the 11.6 @ 120 just to show what it could do way before it was even close to the level he's at now, that's all.

ding !!! that was in Jan 2005 at LACR

[bradyzq]

falling on my face 1st second (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iyiOSnVL8o)

LOL! [:D]

Everything is relative though.

If you shift out of 1st at 8200, you'll drop to 4400ish in 2nd on a perfect shift with no wheelspin. 2nd seems to be a make it or break it gear on these cars.

I did all this math when talking with Guru about torque.

At 8200 in 1st, you have about 390 lb*ft of acceleration x gearing = 5600 lb*ft worth of grunt.

In 2nd at 4400RPM, you have about 160 lb*ft of accel x gearing = 1250 lb*ft of grunt.

So, you have less than a quarter of the accel you had in 1st, and the gap in gearing is repsonsible for less than half the loss.

Everyone with this gearbox has to deal with this to varying degrees.

As you know, to minimize this, rev the absolute piss out of the car in 1st and 2nd!

Enjoy your Beast. I see almost daily, through Guruman, how much fun they can be.

[bradyzq]

For the meth injectio location, it a question of physics.

An air-air intercooler can only cool down to ambient outside temperature, so if you inject the meth before the intercooler and it cools the charge air down to ambient outside temperature, then your intercooler can't do anything more.

If you let the intercooler do its job, THEN spray the meth near the TB, the meth can cool the already somewhat cooled air down even more. It could even cool the air to colder than outside air.

If you want to cool the intercooler, you can try an external spray onto the intercooler. That will evaporate, causing the outside of the intercooler to get colder.

[shorterthanrich]

For the meth injectio location, it a question of physics.

An air-air intercooler can only cool down to ambient outside temperature, so if you inject the meth before the intercooler and it cools the charge air down to ambient outside temperature, then your intercooler can't do anything more.

If you let the intercooler do its job, THEN spray the meth near the TB, the meth can cool the already somewhat cooled air down even more. It could even cool the air to colder than outside air.

If you want to cool the intercooler, you can try an external spray onto the intercooler. That will evaporate, causing the outside of the intercooler to get colder.


Science!

[up]

[blackbenzz]

LOL! [:D]

Everything is relative though.

If you shift out of 1st at 8200, you'll drop to 4400ish in 2nd on a perfect shift with no wheelspin. 2nd seems to be a make it or break it gear on these cars.

I did all this math when talking with Guru about torque.

At 8200 in 1st, you have about 390 lb*ft of acceleration x gearing = 5600 lb*ft worth of grunt.

In 2nd at 4400RPM, you have about 160 lb*ft of accel x gearing = 1250 lb*ft of grunt.

So, you have less than a quarter of the accel you had in 1st, and the gap in gearing is repsonsible for less than half the loss.

Everyone with this gearbox has to deal with this to varying degrees.

As you know, to minimize this, rev the absolute piss out of the car in 1st and 2nd!

Enjoy your Beast. I see almost daily, through Guruman, how much fun they can be.

We think alike [up]

[Reich]

For the meth injectio location, it a question of physics.

An air-air intercooler can only cool down to ambient outside temperature, so if you inject the meth before the intercooler and it cools the charge air down to ambient outside temperature, then your intercooler can't do anything more.

If you let the intercooler do its job, THEN spray the meth near the TB, the meth can cool the already somewhat cooled air down even more. It could even cool the air to colder than outside air.

If you want to cool the intercooler, you can try an external spray onto the intercooler. That will evaporate, causing the outside of the intercooler to get colder.

Right on Brady. That makes sense.

[sfored]

For the meth injectio location, it a question of physics.

An air-air intercooler can only cool down to ambient outside temperature, so if you inject the meth before the intercooler and it cools the charge air down to ambient outside temperature, then your intercooler can't do anything more.

If you let the intercooler do its job, THEN spray the meth near the TB, the meth can cool the already somewhat cooled air down even more. It could even cool the air to colder than outside air.

If you want to cool the intercooler, you can try an external spray onto the intercooler. That will evaporate, causing the outside of the intercooler to get colder.

well SIR :) You seem to and obviously know lots more than me about all of this - I just love to drive :)

All your insight, knowledge and input are appreciated and welcomed any time. [up]

[sfored]

LOL! [:D]

Everything is relative though.

If you shift out of 1st at 8200, you'll drop to 4400ish in 2nd on a perfect shift with no wheelspin. 2nd seems to be a make it or break it gear on these cars.

I did all this math when talking with Guru about torque.

At 8200 in 1st, you have about 390 lb*ft of acceleration x gearing = 5600 lb*ft worth of grunt.

In 2nd at 4400RPM, you have about 160 lb*ft of accel x gearing = 1250 lb*ft of grunt.

So, you have less than a quarter of the accel you had in 1st, and the gap in gearing is repsonsible for less than half the loss.

Everyone with this gearbox has to deal with this to varying degrees.

As you know, to minimize this, rev the absolute piss out of the car in 1st and 2nd!

Enjoy your Beast. I see almost daily, through Guruman, how much fun they can be.

YUMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaQj4yt0SHg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fracefwd.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff% 3D4%26t%3D2916%26p%3D51517%26hilit%3Daudi&feature=player_embedded)

That was a 383 built TransAm on 200 shot - Trans Am had 2 cars and the go !!

The rev cut is at 8200- soft cut .. meaning I can ride on it ... I can spin the crap out of 2nd to if I can grab second as high out of first as possible .. I'll have to check but I do NOT think I get back down to ANY 4K range - I believe it is well into the 5s..but will have to re-check :)

[bradyzq]

Wow. I never get called "Sir."

Wheelspin could explain some differences between theoretical and real-life situations.

But, I THINK I can hear a second of not-as-insane acceleration just after you shift into 2nd in your falling-on-face vid. It may be the location of the camera, though.

My ur-Quattro has about 15% more torque at the wheels PEAK in 2nd gear than you do coming into 2nd gear, and my car is not spinning tires at that point. So my guess is you aren't either. Just datalog a run and find out!

[GURUMAN]

Ya but graph looks more driveable now...
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/20090801133304_3_.jpg

[spool twice]

Dude - no one has dared to race from a dig thus far. I have Twin Turbo Vettes; 1100rwhp M3s (umm $hit load of "claimed" hp over me)...they want rolllll races... ? [confused] ?

I will post up some smoookey :) launch vids later on .. with 1st/2nd...

Cant wait till I get some sort of cooling into the ICs... the bottom end tank of the ICs are on fire after 1 pull...do you have similar issues?

Sick car man, I remember you starting this project when I still had my s4. If you're ganna get one of these RWD cars to run you from a dig your ganna need to allow them to run a slick or nice DR. BTW, Taza does make just over 1100 rwhp, but I dont think he can hook any of it yet. Id watch out for some vettes. If you want to race some M3s that can hook and run some good 60's you need to run an e36, such as card counter or Mike R. But both are east coast.

Also, why not race an evo or something? I know plenty out there that can plant 900+awhp.

[blackbenzz]

So it has been over a month, any track times yet?

[sfored]

upgrading the fueling ... and working on cooling the ICs a bit better.
will come back stronger .. in a few weeks.

[Rated S]

Taza does make just over 1100 rwhp, but I dont think he can hook any of it yet.

Taz sold his car a while ago.

[sfored]

doubt that .. he was talking crap about 3-4 weeks ago.. he better not have - bec an Audi still remains to embarrass him b4 he sells

[Silence]

Taz sold his car a while ago.

Bzzt! Wrong. He still has it, although AFAIK, he never runs anyone.

[S-Power]

Taza will never sell his car, unless he gets over 100k for it.

[sfored]

Taza will never sell his car, unless he gets over 100k for it.

his price will go down once he gets walked by an S4 :)[:D]

[Dr.Duct]

were you running the hardware setup 4+ years ago that you are running now??

I like how your setup keeps the turbos top side vs. placing them down in the heat hell of the motor.. Fuck it, just run open turbos with no filter next time on the dyno.

[jibberjive]

his price will go down once he gets walked by an S4 :)[:D]

I'm all for you having a fast S4, but man is your attitude irksome.

[Dr.Duct]

Faw's cousin... Dom Dom Dom

[Evilevo]

doubt that .. he was talking crap about 3-4 weeks ago.. he better not have - bec an Audi still remains to embarrass him b4 he sells

your funny man. give him slicks/ a sticky tire. You have NO CHANCE against a car that makes as much power as he does. Congrats you made 660awhp, it took you race gas and a shitload of boost [down]

[shorterthanrich]

I've been enjoying your build for a long time, and stood up for a lot of things you've said, but there seems to be a trend of you talking pretty big/putting down other people's cars. Your car is balls fast, and hasn't hit its full potential, but have some humility and stop calling people out all of the time. It's not the fastest car that ever was, is, or will be, and it's very far from it. Like I said, it's ridiculously fast and (to me) extremely impressive. But make friends for friendly races and have fun with it without all of the attitude and people will be a lot more receptive to it.

[sfored]

I'm all for you having a fast S4, but man is your attitude irksome.

whatever dude .. I am sick of S4 dudes hanging on M3s dudes nuts..
He has talked soo much crap about my car/ride etc.. I feel that i can say anything to a clown whom wants to race me to 200mph.,, make 1100+ whp and still asks to get "his" race - from a roll - wtf ?

[sfored]

your funny man. give him slicks/ a sticky tire. You have NO CHANCE against a car that makes as much power as he does. Congrats you made 660awhp, it took you race gas and a shitload of boost [down]

as of today - it is 701 awhp on dyno dynamics and I am working on the fueling ... and i will drive the car around w/o having to talk about how much power i make - ... but i can not drive it or put it down .. bla bla bla..

[sfored]

I've been enjoying your build for a long time, and stood up for a lot of things you've said, but there seems to be a trend of you talking pretty big/putting down other people's cars. Your car is balls fast, and hasn't hit its full potential, but have some humility and stop calling people out all of the time. It's not the fastest car that ever was, is, or will be, and it's very far from it. Like I said, it's ridiculously fast and (to me) extremely impressive. But make friends for friendly races and have fun with it without all of the attitude and people will be a lot more receptive to it.

I make friendly bets.. races with anyone whom acts that way towards me
NOT with this dickhead (http://forums.audiworld.com/showpost.php?p=23826286&postcount=51) he comes to an Audi forum .. to my thread and starts bashing "Audis" - not cool in my book ...

[sfored]

and for whatever it is worth I've never had any (-) criticism about any of the guys' builds on AZine or AW...

[Evilevo]

as of today - it is 701 awhp on dyno dynamics and I am working on the fueling ... and i will drive the car around w/o having to talk about how much power i make - ... but i can not drive it or put it down .. bla bla bla..

How much boost did it take? and on what gas? Im not swinging on M3s nuts, ask any of my friends, i hate on them all the time. Im just saying. That HPF car you ran was on 91 and Meth, and you were on race gas.