Possibly a S5 3.0T [Archive]

Nebone

06-22-2007, 06:19 PM

Well I just found out about another new audi engine, the 3.0T. Looks like another bi-turbo platform emerging from the 2.7T. Must be the 3.2 V6 FSI with cylinder sleeves to handle boost.

So with this motor out, the S5 3.0T might be a reality and I just can't wait.

BaLLzZz

06-22-2007, 06:46 PM

if true i might buy over s5 just because i have much more engine modding possibilitys and then just ugrade suspension and kit we good lOl

DeMOROlized

06-24-2007, 04:13 AM

It's a well known fact that the S5 will have a 4.2L V8.

RealSanaii

06-24-2007, 08:28 PM

Maybe he means the RS5...

S|Quattro|4

06-24-2007, 09:50 PM

Eh, I doubt that its going to be the RS5. But, I really hope that the engine comes out for one of the A5s. I love the V8, but its way too difficult to tune. I wouldnt mind dropping two cylinders for two turbos.

speedydragon

06-24-2007, 11:14 PM

nah audi aint going to devlope two engiens for the S

kovachian

06-25-2007, 12:15 AM

Yea I just heard Audi is putting the TT V12 TDI in the A3 and call it the RSRS3. Oh boy oh boy I can't wait!!!

PaperishPlastic

06-25-2007, 12:36 AM

I think your talking about the QRS3 superleggra

Nebone

06-30-2007, 04:24 AM

The 3.0T is supposed to make more power than the S4 4.2 but less than RS4 4.2. Little under 400hp and thats factory. A tune would bring it to a RS4 killer. I'd be so down for that but would be good to wait a year or 2 so they would work out all the first release problems with it.

EuroB6

06-30-2007, 08:48 AM

where did u hear about this?

EuroB6

06-30-2007, 08:50 AM

u sure it's not this car?

http://www.worldcarfans.com/tuners.cfm/tunerid/7051024.001

Nebone

06-30-2007, 09:08 AM

u sure it's not this car?

http://www.worldcarfans.com/tuners.cfm/tunerid/7051024.001

No. I read in a magazine that Audi will debute its 3.0 liter turbo engine. So I assumed it would make its way into the S5 and thus I posted in the S5 forum. By 3 liter turbo they must have meant 3.0T and not TDI since 3.0 TDI is already out.

BlackedOutS4

06-30-2007, 03:03 PM

Yeah i wish my S4 was more a more tunable engine. That would be great if they put the 6 in the S5, the gas mileage on my V8 B7 S4 is horrible. :(

CanuckRS4

07-01-2007, 10:00 AM

Ya, seriously doubtful that there are going to be two engine choices for the S5...but it's fun to think of the possibilities :)
Hard to believe the 3.0T would be better than the 4.2L, that V8 puts a smile on my face every time i give'r the balls out treatment!

3.0 King

07-05-2007, 03:53 PM

well i went to Borders book store to find a euro car mag and i found the mag "EVO"in this mag it had a small pic and a brief discription of the RS5, and said it "the secret is out the RS5 will be getting a TTmotor , but unclear as to what cylinder count it will be?[up]

Kievskiy

07-05-2007, 05:03 PM

2.7t eating 4.2 like crazy just with chip.....so chiped 3.0t will do much much better...u just probably never drove nicelly tuned stage 2+ 2.7t....no doubt v8 is fast but not that fast;)

Ya, seriously doubtful that there are going to be two engine choices for the S5...but it's fun to think of the possibilities :)
Hard to believe the 3.0T would be better than the 4.2L, that V8 puts a smile on my face every time i give'r the balls out treatment!

toaster

07-05-2007, 05:21 PM

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_new_car.php?sid=701&page=1

DeMOROlized

07-06-2007, 08:59 AM

switchface

07-06-2007, 12:59 PM

^ Now those are some fine rumors! I like...

3.0 King

07-06-2007, 03:13 PM

if the 3.0 gets twin turbos i will be lovin life man...the 3.0 has little to almost no respect, what a beautiful thing "3.0tt" how nice does that sound aaaahhhhhhhh! and anything else audi throws in the rs5 v8tt killer...for those of you who don't know i have been wishing for the day the 3.0 may yearn the respect of the audi group...an s4 3.0tt what a f..ckin curve ball, if audi does that, then bmw will be back to the drawing board ...a 3.0tt s4 stg3 should flat out geytup and getboy! hehe haha i'm emotionaly drunk right now at the thought of this...[:D]

Slo.Mo.Shun.

07-06-2007, 03:30 PM

A 3.0TT (FSI) will show BMW who is the boss.

Not to mention a V8TT

BaLLzZz

07-07-2007, 08:54 AM

A 3.0TT (FSI) will show BMW who is the boss.

Not to mention a V8TT

AMEN

AudiA4_20T

07-07-2007, 09:14 AM

A 3.0TT (FSI) will show BMW who is the boss.

Not to mention a V8TT

Wait a second... did someone just say twin GT28s? [drive]

Sleeper INC.

07-07-2007, 04:26 PM

hmmm lets throw in 1 more abbreviation.... FSI

FSI TT would kill, look at what FSI did for the I4T and not to mention the V8 motor

LORDOFTHERINGS

07-07-2007, 07:08 PM

If something like this were to happen, would it:

1. Would it be an "S"?
2. If it was an "S", would it be priced more or less than the other S5?

Based on what I'm hearing so far, this would be a definite 335 killer!

I really hate BMW's

3.0 King

07-07-2007, 08:34 PM

hmmm lets throw in 1 more abbreviation.... FSI

FSI TT would kill, look at what FSI did for the I4T and not to mention the V8 motor

so true...

quattshot

07-09-2007, 09:22 AM

Not to mention a tuned V6 sounds sooo much sweeter then an open exhausted
v8. I used to get stopped by EVERYONE when I had the opened up B5 S4.

So TT, which leads me into warranty issues again! lol
G-D I hope Audi makes the issues go bye bye. Like the KO3 time bombs after reflashing the ECU!! Oh the memories....

3.0 King

07-09-2007, 11:35 AM

so today I read in "Automobile" mag 2007 August edition and quote " the rs5 will be getting a FSI V8 450hp motor" and audi will run a limited edition of RS models to option for the V10 tuned to 500hp" I'll take whatever audi puts out but i like the 3.0tt, V8tt idea better myself[cool]

Silververtu

07-10-2007, 08:15 AM

If something like this were to happen, would it:

I really hate BMW's

I hate BMW too, but I've just purchased a Z4 roadster. [headbang]

Nebone

07-11-2007, 09:27 PM

It makes sense. BMW has the 335 which is a 3 liter biturbo. S5 will have one but better! Hope the A5 will get the 3.0TT beccase S5 will be so expensive.

LORDOFTHERINGS

07-12-2007, 04:57 PM

It makes sense. BMW has the 335 which is a 3 liter biturbo. S5 will have one but better! Hope the A5 will get the 3.0TT beccase S5 will be so expensive.

I agree!!

exorcet

07-12-2007, 05:53 PM

JMRA4

07-21-2007, 09:04 AM

It makes sense. BMW has the 335 which is a 3 liter biturbo. S5 will have one but better! Hope the A5 will get the 3.0TT beccase S5 will be so expensive.

That would be so much better if the A5 got the 3.0TT to compete with the 335i's 3.0TT. It doesn't make since to put it in the S5, when you can get the 335i for so much less and almost the same performance.

I would take a 3.0TT A5 over the S5 anyday, althought the sound of the V8 is awesome.

Hopefully it will make its way into the A5, then it will be my next car when my B7 A4 lease is up

JMRA4

07-21-2007, 09:11 AM

B8 S4 with 3.0TT would be IT. I hate BMW's but that 335i is very, very enticing. I just couldn't live with the interior all day every day. Audi interiors are second to none, IMHO.

I would sell a kidney for a B8 S4 3.0TT. I'm serious. Dead serious. That's incentive to start busting my ass at work right there... lights a fire under my ass.

It would be awesome, but the 3.0TT should be put in the New A4/A5, not the S4/ S5. I mean the 335i has a 3.0TT and is not a "M" car, so why put a 3.0TT in a "s" car, it doesnt make since.

A4/A5 3.0TT should compete with the 335i not the S4/S5. If they put it in the S5, then what is there to compete with the 335i for the same price, cause an S4/S5 will be alot more expensive.

PaperishPlastic

07-21-2007, 11:40 AM

. I mean the 335i has a 3.0TT and is not a "M" car, so why put a 3.0TT in a "s" car, it doesnt make since.

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Because Audi has the RS cars to obliterate M3's and M5's

onemoremile

07-21-2007, 03:38 PM

The new RSTT will have a twin sequential turbo 5 cylinder. It could be that engine.

I'm more impressed with a real Quattro system that doesn't rely on deceptive marketing schemes like EDL.

"The Sportback will be the first Audi to feature QTV - quattro torque vectoring. By upgrading its quattro system with additional electromagnetic clutches, QTV will work in conjunction with braking sensors to monitor steering angle, yaw rates, road speed and torque levels. It will then apportion torque not only between front and rear axle but also between left and right wheels.

Operating both under load and during throttle lift-off – arguably when the car is at its most unstable – QTV results in a more neutral cornering stance by dialing out excess over or understeer, as well as even more effective levels of traction and agility.'

InfinitiMike

07-21-2007, 03:51 PM

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/2115000-2115999/2115240_25_full.jpg

This is a write up in the latest Car and Driver discussing the upcoming A7.

3.2 N/a V6
3.0T V6
5.2 V-10 for the S7

No mention of a V8 for the A7.

For the A5/S5 in the Issue, they just mention the 3.2 V6 for the A5 and 4.2 V8 for the S5. I would assume RS5 would use the same engine as the RS4. By the time the A7 comes out in 2011, I can see Audi adding a 3.0T engine to replace the 3.2 V6. And It will have 300 HP to not steal sales away from the S5's V8

JMRA4

07-22-2007, 04:32 AM

Because Audi has the RS cars to obliterate M3's and M5's

Yes ,but Audi buyers should not have to buy an 'S' car to compete with a regular 3 series like the 335i. The A5/S5 is 10x better looking inside and out, but the A5 performance wise will get its ass handed to it by the 335i. Now put a 3.0TT in the A5, and were in buisness. Infiniti,BMW, and Lexus all have 300+ HP in the same class as the A4/A5.

QuaTTrings

07-22-2007, 10:54 AM

While this 3.0t "sounds" great, the source (according to this thread) is an automotive magazine. They seem to be more wrong than right when predicting what Audi will be coming out with. Those same magazines said a while back that the A5/S5 would have torque vectoring, 380-400bhp and look like the Nuvolari. I'll believe it when I see it as I can't see Audi making an identical engine as BMWs with near the same output and displacement. It does seem that the 5.0 liter Twin Turbo V8 is probably a reality for the RS5 as there are already engine codes that have been identified.

InfinitiMike

07-23-2007, 12:01 PM

Audi buyers should not have to buy an 'S' car to compete with a regular 3 series like the 335i. The A5/S5 is 10x better looking inside and out, but the A5 performance wise will get its ass handed to it by the 335i. Now put a 3.0TT in the A5, and were in buisness. Infiniti,BMW, and Lexus all have 300+ HP in the same class as the A4/A5.

Don't forget that the S4 is made directly by Audi. The RS-4 is made by Quattro.

Now, both the M3 and the AMG's are NOT made directly by BMW/Benz. They are made by their respective in-house tuners (M and AMG)

For this reason, I think that for current and future cars, it would be more fair to compare the RS5 with the M3 and the 335i with the S5.

JMRA4

07-24-2007, 09:02 AM

Don't forget that the S4 is made directly by Audi. The RS-4 is made by Quattro.

Now, both the M3 and the AMG's are NOT made directly by BMW/Benz. They are made by their respective in-house tuners (M and AMG)

For this reason, I think that for current and future cars, it would be more fair to compare the RS5 with the M3 and the 335i with the S5.

I see what your saying, but why should we compare a 60k(EST) S5
to a 49K 335i?

DeMOROlized

07-25-2007, 08:34 AM

I see what your saying, but why should we compare a 60k(EST) S5
to a 49K 335i?

Because when you load up the 49k 335i with compariable options to the 60k S5, the 335i will be about 60k as well?

JMRA4

07-25-2007, 09:27 AM

Because when you load up the 49k 335i with compariable options to the 60k S5, the 335i will be about 60k as well?

A fully loaded 335i is around 53k, not sure what a fully loaded S5 will be, but I believe more. I would still take the S5, but your average buyer with no loyality to either brand might not want to spend the extra 7-8k for the same thing in their minds

illusive45

07-28-2007, 10:48 AM

As sickk as that sounds, I doubt it's gonna happen. The 4.2TT will probably power the RS5. If they do make a 3.0TT, its not gonna be powered more than 400hp.

Nebone

11-20-2007, 10:55 PM

Finally! In the S4 tho...

http://www.audiworld.com/news/07/b8-s4-exclusive-preview/

MojaveA4

11-21-2007, 05:44 AM

Thanks for posting that link ! That is just awesome. I thought I was going to replace my A4 with an S5. Now maybe an S4. Unless that bi-turbo makes into a S5?

crespo

11-21-2007, 07:59 AM

I'm impressed the rumor was spot-on from so many months back...

Slo.Mo.Shun.

11-21-2007, 08:27 AM

We are an influential crowd [;)]

Nebone

11-22-2007, 09:54 PM

I'm glad this is actually happening!

QUATTROSTEEL

11-26-2007, 11:14 AM

Im pretty sure the engine you are referring to is going to be the new S4 engine.

jonmiles

11-26-2007, 04:15 PM

dreamcar=rs4

02-21-2008, 02:28 PM

It makes sense. BMW has the 335 which is a 3 liter biturbo. S5 will have one but better! Hope the A5 will get the 3.0TT beccase S5 will be so expensive.

im sure audi will make a 3.0TT the right way[up] and not have all the high engine temps and reliability issues that the 335i has

gotaudi

02-21-2008, 05:46 PM

im sure audi will make a 3.0TT the right way[up] and not have all the high engine temps and reliability issues that the 335i has

BMW mainly deal with N/A motors (weak) so it is expected that their TT engine is going to have a little heat issue.

TooLow2.0T

02-21-2008, 06:48 PM

We have confirmed with inside sources that the B8 S4 will debut with a brand new 3.0-liter TFSI bi-turbo producing 330-hp. With this powerplant Audi can nearly match the B7's 340-hp output while providing even better performance figures. Manufacturer published (conservative) 0-60mph drops from 5.4 seconds to very low 5's, while the accompanying combined fuel economy rises from 17 mpg to over 20 mpg.

Sounds good!