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UltraA4John

07-02-2004, 12:57 PM

http://94octane.com/media/videos/supra360.wmv

a4s

07-02-2004, 01:10 PM

Rule #1- Don't mess with Supras.
Rule #2 - Don't forget Rule #1.

Groove1797

07-02-2004, 01:23 PM

The guy at the end is funny!

imajn34

07-02-2004, 01:29 PM

Was the Ferrari 360 Modena even trying? Looks kind of fishy.

HyperM3

07-02-2004, 01:33 PM

Id take the Ferrari any day. Hands down no questions asked.

Quattrophile

07-02-2004, 01:37 PM

Yep...that Modena got PWNED!!! Those Supras are friggin ridiculous when modded. They can reach up to 800+ wheel horsepower. Check out www.TO4R.com they have some insane rides.

widm3r

07-02-2004, 01:37 PM

Ferarri got OWNED!

HyperM3

07-02-2004, 01:40 PM

I wouldnt really say the Ferrari got OWNED. looks like he backed off at the end. I cant see how at those speeds the supra would start walking away considering they were neck and neck most of the way.

RippleChip

07-02-2004, 01:48 PM

Sweet....

...but I'm moving this.

Quattrotakis

07-02-2004, 02:22 PM

This greek kid from detroit has a supra that walks on everything. He has a turbo collection in his living room and whatever horsepower he feels like for the day he goes out and swaps turbos'. He's killed some of the fastest cars in that city, granted most of his races are from a 60mph roll going up to 140/150. He has since moved to Greece :-P

TurboTony

07-02-2004, 03:10 PM

You can get any woman and **** her every day...she can suck your cock and be the biggest slut for you...but guess what no class...
I rather have something i love..
**** japanese cars...
Tony

neoprufrok

07-02-2004, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by TurboTony
You can get any woman and **** her every day...she can suck your cock and be the biggest slut for you...but guess what no class...
I rather have something i love..
**** japanese cars...
Tony

Well... I agree that I'd take the Ferrari over any Supra anyday. Its about owning something rare. And owning something that is a piece of work... off the shelf. No need to modify it to get that performance.

I don't agree about ****'ing japanese cars... but thats another topic altogether.

tigabalm

07-02-2004, 04:10 PM

i am with neoprufrok on this one, just cuz it can beat a ferrari doesnt mean its better... personally i would prolly take the supra at this point... only cuz i dont think a 19 yr old kid should be rocking a ferrari.... i mean obviously if it were plain value, i wud take the ferrari, but i have to accountfor daily driving and personal suits....

but yeah both sick ass cars!!!

peace

Lensch09

07-02-2004, 04:33 PM

I know this has nothing to do with the race but.....

That race was from a highway roll, Any of you guys ever heard the joke about the similarity between an 900 horsepower supra and a 450 horsepower supra???? they both run 12's. Power means nothing if you don't have good engineering to get it attached to the ground somehow. Given that supras are highway thrillers i'd like to see the toyota snatch the Ferarri in a dead stop to 100 race and back down to 0. I can almost garuntee that the supra will get absolutely laced. I can also assure anyone with supras having the handling reps they carry (800 horsepower lightened up tanks) that the supra would get embarassed on a race track.....no contest....

That + Ferrari=uncomparable panty dropper......

any more questions which car i would rather have?

:shrug:

My $.02 spent
-DAN

TurboTony

07-02-2004, 04:50 PM

Please dont compare a Ferrari with a commercial Toyota...its just not fair...please someone erase this tread...

Tony

G_A4

07-02-2004, 06:06 PM

looks like the ferrari held back. its a 300 thousand dollar car versus. hmmm i don't even know how much supras are but its not nearly as close as the ferrari. that could be the reason why the driver of the ferrari held back.

TurboTony

07-02-2004, 06:17 PM

That ferrari is 150 k, its called modena and not medona...stop offending the freaking think...educate your self ...first..
Tony

I am armed

07-02-2004, 08:10 PM

Supra = Fast
Modena = Fast AND outrageously classy

D Piddy

07-02-2004, 09:45 PM

here's how i see it:

the supra's pretty pimp

the modena's extremely baller

now you wouldn't think there'd be much difference, but there really is, at least in my mind

ncttrnl

07-02-2004, 10:22 PM

Sure the Supra is fast but the 360 is a Ferrari.

I would take either of them if given the chance but if I had a choice... the Ferrari would win hands down.

rainmaker

07-02-2004, 10:53 PM

I'm surprised Yellow hasn't jumped in here yet....

Supras are the easiest cars (yes even over a Grand National) to make fast. Single turbo kits are relatively cheap and as previously mentioned can make GOBS of HP.

Read as Ferrari=overprice go cart. Supra=Top end of a Motorcycle.

Yea there is the whole Jap-crap vs. Italian ledged debate here, but lets face it; that Ferrari not only had the jump on him, he also had the lead on him. And he was trying. Why would you let off if someone is gaining on you? The Ferrari lost. And would lose again if they went from a roll. On a drag strip it might be a different story. Supras don't turn great ET's, but can hella MPH. My buddy ran 13.1 @ 130 MPH. That MPH should be a high 10, if he hooked up. And there in lies the problem with Supras. But if you ask him if he wants to race, he says "Sure, but my races start from a 120 MPH roll"....

So not doubt that F lost, and he didn't let off... What I find even more incredible is that the Supra had four people in it....how many did that Ferrari have? One guy that paid WAY too much to lose...

neoprufrok

07-03-2004, 01:41 AM

Originally posted by rainmaker
I'm surprised Yellow hasn't jumped in here yet....

Supras are the easiest cars (yes even over a Grand National) to make fast. Single turbo kits are relatively cheap and as previously mentioned can make GOBS of HP.

Read as Ferrari=overprice go cart. Supra=Top end of a Motorcycle.

Yea there is the whole Jap-crap vs. Italian ledged debate here, but lets face it; that Ferrari not only had the jump on him, he also had the lead on him. And he was trying. Why would you let off if someone is gaining on you? The Ferrari lost. And would lose again if they went from a roll. On a drag strip it might be a different story. Supras don't turn great ET's, but can hella MPH. My buddy ran 13.1 @ 130 MPH. That MPH should be a high 10, if he hooked up. And there in lies the problem with Supras. But if you ask him if he wants to race, he says "Sure, but my races start from a 120 MPH roll"....

So not doubt that F lost, and he didn't let off... What I find even more incredible is that the Supra had four people in it....how many did that Ferrari have? One guy that paid WAY too much to lose...

Maybe you're just living life a quarter mile at a time, but most sane people (and performance oriented ones also) don't buy cars simply to race in straight lines.

Lets see...

Somewhat decent looking car that goes fast but breaks down every other week..

vs.

A rare, handbuilt, fast, balanced, and incredibly beautiful sports car with a long history of tradition...and it comes that way from the factory.

Hands down I take the Ferrari.

cj-S4

07-03-2004, 08:31 AM

Nice, but the 360 is not all that fast. A mildly modded Supra would OWN it. That said,, I would take the 360 over the Supra or my Z06 anyday. But I also smoked one in my Z06, when it was still stock on an uphill run. My torque curve ate that car like it wasn't going anywhere.

rainmaker

07-03-2004, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by neoprufrok
Maybe you're just living life a quarter mile at a time, but most sane people (and performance oriented ones also) don't buy cars simply to race in straight lines.

Lets see...

Somewhat decent looking car that goes fast but breaks down every other week..

vs.

A rare, handbuilt, fast, balanced, and incredibly beautiful sports car with a long history of tradition...and it comes that way from the factory.

Hands down I take the Ferrari.
I'm not going to get in a war over something so trivial, but just like you said, not all people Autocross either. That video showed NO auto crossing. It was about pure speed. And hence the Ferrari got owned. The fact that a car costs 330K doesn't make it unbeatable. It makes it over priced in my opinion. You pay for the name with Ferrari, not the performance. Anyone that pays that much for that little of performance (yes even in the autocross world) don't know d!ck about cars. With the exception of the Enzo and F50; my opinion is that all Ferrari's are over priced. CJ said it best. His 50K American built sports car beat a 360. Heck I had a four door Bravada that spanked a Testarossa on the street. That guy was super embarrassed that he paid about ~80 grand more than me to lose.

So I guess it depends on what you want in a car. My opinion you can go a lot faster for a LOT less. Ferrari may be a cool car, but not when it's having its ass handed to it by a bunch of punks in a "ricer". [rolleyes]

TurboTony

07-03-2004, 09:13 AM

TurboTony

07-03-2004, 09:15 AM

That ferrari is NOT 330 K ...is this forum a car forum or a bullshit one?

Tony

rainmaker

07-03-2004, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by TurboTony
Go back to chitown..

Tony

Yawn. Great come back.....instead of smack talking why don't you back your sh!t up with a real argument? What experiences do you have with Ferrari's? Or are you just another armchair enthusiast that likes to talk a whole bunch with out much to say?

Look just because I don't like your choice of car doesn't mean you have to attack me. I stated all facts. Ferrari’s are overpriced. They are beatable (all cars are). And in that video that guy got owned.

Lighten up. If you wanna argue goto PM's, otherwise keep this sh!t off the public forum.

rainmaker

07-03-2004, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by TurboTony
That ferrari is NOT 330 K ...is this forum a car forum or a bullshit one?

Tony

My mistake. It's the Ferrari 575M that's more like 300K. Thanks for pointing that out....still over priced.

Dirty_Ca$h

07-03-2004, 09:46 AM

cj-S4

07-03-2004, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by rainmaker
My mistake. It's the Ferrari 575M that's more like 300K. Thanks for pointing that out....still over priced.

I don't think they are overpriced. They are rare hand built cars. If you or I were a multi millionare we wouldn't care what the price was,, only what car we wanted. You know what I mean? It only seems overpriced to someone that can't afford it. People have told me my Z06 is overpriced,, and my S4,, and everyone of them couldn't have bought either.

TurboTony

07-03-2004, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by rainmaker
Yawn. Great come back.....instead of smack talking why don't you back your sh!t up with a real argument? What experiences do you have with Ferrari's? Or are you just another armchair enthusiast that likes to talk a whole bunch with out much to say?

Look just because I don't like your choice of car doesn't mean you have to attack me. I stated all facts. Ferrari’s are overpriced. They are beatable (all cars are). And in that video that guy got owned.

Lighten up. If you wanna argue goto PM's, otherwise keep this sh!t off the public forum.

Listen , i love ferraris and i love the history, im very proud of them being italian.
I hate to tell you but if you think that im saying shit, im sorry but the way you talk makes me think you dont know shit.

Im giving you too much time by answering you.

Tony

neoprufrok

07-03-2004, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by Dirty_Ca$h
Am I missing something here.... or did you just question a Toyota's reliability while praising that of a Ferrari?

Wow..... I have officially heard it all.

Yeah you did miss something.

When you tune a 900hp turbo'd car, it's more than likely that you'll be taking it back and forth to get it fixed for various issues.

Having a highly tuned Honda Civic before, I know this. You can't just mod cars and expect to be driving it around wihtout going to the tuner to get various issues worked out.

Stock Supra vs Stock Ferrari, reliability is in Toyota's favor. But any modified car, especially one modified to that level is asking for blown rods, valves, etc.

Mark

07-03-2004, 10:46 AM

the 360 driver didn't really seem like he was trying to hard.

modified supra's can make some serious numbers. They make great straight line cars with easily over 500hp.

I'd rather have the 360 through the corners though.

neoprufrok

07-03-2004, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by rainmaker
I'm not going to get in a war over something so trivial, but just like you said, not all people Autocross either. That video showed NO auto crossing. It was about pure speed. And hence the Ferrari got owned. The fact that a car costs 330K doesn't make it unbeatable. It makes it over priced in my opinion. You pay for the name with Ferrari, not the performance. Anyone that pays that much for that little of performance (yes even in the autocross world) don't know d!ck about cars. With the exception of the Enzo and F50; my opinion is that all Ferrari's are over priced. CJ said it best. His 50K American built sports car beat a 360. Heck I had a four door Bravada that spanked a Testarossa on the street. That guy was super embarrassed that he paid about ~80 grand more than me to lose.

So I guess it depends on what you want in a car. My opinion you can go a lot faster for a LOT less. Ferrari may be a cool car, but not when it's having its ass handed to it by a bunch of punks in a "ricer". [rolleyes]

And you are right. There are a LOT of cars that go faster in the straight line for less. But at the same time, there are a lot of civics that go faster than the stock S4. You can say this for any car. These days you can get almost any car (except a hybrid) to go faster than a Ferrari, a Porsche GT3, etc. It just requires some money and time.

That said, I'd own an S4 anyday over the civic because of other factors than straight line performance. Factors such as design, safety, reliability (yes a modded civic breaks down - I had one), luxury, everyday drivability. These are factors that 99.9% of car consumers take into account when buying a car.

Finally, this car is handbuilt and rare. How many Supras were made each year compared tot he number of 360s driving out there. Synthetic diamonds may have the same sparkle and cut, but they don't hold a candle to a diamond that has been naturally formed.

Just for some background, I was part of the "ricer" crowd. I have respect for all cars, modded or stock, riced out or not. Enthusiasts love their cars and thats good for the industry. I've modded my Civic Si, B5 S4, CLS Type S, and B6 A4 - and I loved all of them.

I'm not trying to flame you or anybody else, I just think that you can't compare these two cars based on one performance aspect and claim one is better than the other. Its only proper to understand how great a Ferrari is based on the sum of its qualities.

Jeff

07-04-2004, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by UltraA4John
http://94octane.com/media/videos/supra360.wmv

You can easily beat a 360 with basic mods on the Supra: DP, exhaust, intake, and pull some wastegate hoses and disable the IAC which limits the 14psi boost cut...worked all the time [:D]

But like my uncle always tells me, "your Supra may be fast... but I still drive the FERRARI!" [mad]

-Jeff

Quattrotakis

07-04-2004, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by TurboTony
im very proud of them being italian.
I

there's your first problem

TurboTony

07-04-2004, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by Quattrotakis
there's your first problem

I like my problems then...i love them...but guess what..i would never change my problems with yours..hell not that would be disgusting...
Thank god i am me and not you.
Tony

Ryan S.

07-04-2004, 09:02 AM

a twin turbo porsche would kick the crap out of em all.

JpnA4Quattro

07-04-2004, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by Quattrotakis
there's your first problem

lol

Quattrophile

07-04-2004, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by neoprufrok
And you are right. There are a LOT of cars that go faster in the straight line for less. But at the same time, there are a lot of civics that go faster than the stock S4. You can say this for any car. These days you can get almost any car (except a hybrid) to go faster than a Ferrari, a Porsche GT3, etc. It just requires some money and time.

That said, I'd own an S4 anyday over the civic because of other factors than straight line performance. Factors such as design, safety, reliability (yes a modded civic breaks down - I had one), luxury, everyday drivability. These are factors that 99.9% of car consumers take into account when buying a car.

Finally, this car is handbuilt and rare. How many Supras were made each year compared tot he number of 360s driving out there. Synthetic diamonds may have the same sparkle and cut, but they don't hold a candle to a diamond that has been naturally formed.

Just for some background, I was part of the "ricer" crowd. I have respect for all cars, modded or stock, riced out or not. Enthusiasts love their cars and thats good for the industry. I've modded my Civic Si, B5 S4, CLS Type S, and B6 A4 - and I loved all of them.

I'm not trying to flame you or anybody else, I just think that you can't compare these two cars based on one performance aspect and claim one is better than the other. Its only proper to understand how great a Ferrari is based on the sum of its qualities.

Well said Neo!

As for me...I dont care if the Supra had 2000 horsepower...I'd still take the Modena over it any day just cuz of the PIMP factor.

Dirty_Ca$h

07-04-2004, 12:13 PM

Well, add to my comment that you don't need a 900 hp Supra to beat the 360. At any rate, point is you were essentially saying a Ferrari was more reliable and requires less maintenance.

EVIL-AUDI

07-06-2004, 05:42 AM

Some of you guys really just don't get it.

angryswede

07-06-2004, 11:37 AM

who cares if a supra would own a ferrari in a straight line, on the freeway. you could get most anything to do that if you have the cash to do it.

let's see them race in the canyons.

oh, wait. you wouldn't see that because the supra would be off the edge on the 2nd turn (assuming he made the 1st)

you guys are comparing apples and watermelons here (not even oranges). totally different beasts.

my opinion: anyone who would choose a modded supra over a modena should be beat with a rusty pipe.

richTERD

07-06-2004, 11:45 AM

why dont you, to those who are bitching, stop crying and find a link that works so I can see this

italy > you

rainmaker

07-06-2004, 12:52 PM

This thread is getting retarded....

I'll make this last post then watch from a far while I shake my head....

http://www.mkiv.com/publications/motor_trend/8_93/mt893_12.jpg

.98 on the skidpad. not to shabby IMO.

In a realistic world where none of us will ever afford a Ferrari, let alone the insurance it would cost, or the maintenance.....the Supra seems like the wisest choice to me. However, if I won the lotto and money was no object I'm sure I'd pick the F.

Now that being said. How many of you really race in a Canyon everyday? Or street race your Ferrari every night? *shrug* seems to me you can get all the same performance of Ferrari for a bout 1/3 of the cost. And to me that's more of a realistic choice. You can have your Ferrari, but don’t cry as I'm zipping past you on the highway going to work. Or when Vin Diesel and I pull up next to you at a light. Or I'm replacing the brake pads myself, and you're paying a certified Ferrari dealer 150 bucks an hour...etc...

Mechanically complete opposites. Utility and bang for the buck...hands down the Toyota.

Again all in my opinion...but what do I know?

cj-S4

07-07-2004, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by rainmaker
This thread is getting retarded....

I'll make this last post then watch from a far while I shake my head....

http://www.mkiv.com/publications/motor_trend/8_93/mt893_12.jpg

.98 on the skidpad. not to shabby IMO.

In a realistic world where none of us will ever afford a Ferrari, let alone the insurance it would cost, or the maintenance.....the Supra seems like the wisest choice to me. However, if I won the lotto and money was no object I'm sure I'd pick the F.

Now that being said. How many of you really race in a Canyon everyday? Or street race your Ferrari every night? *shrug* seems to me you can get all the same performance of Ferrari for a bout 1/3 of the cost. And to me that's more of a realistic choice. You can have your Ferrari, but don’t cry as I'm zipping past you on the highway going to work. Or when Vin Diesel and I pull up next to you at a light. Or I'm replacing the brake pads myself, and you're paying a certified Ferrari dealer 150 bucks an hour...etc...

Mechanically complete opposites. Utility and bang for the buck...hands down the Toyota.

Again all in my opinion...but what do I know?

If you want a super car on a budget,, the Z06 is the way to go. It has the brakes, suspension and power too,, throw a few modds on it,, assuming you bought it used for around 40k,, you could have a 50-60k car that no 100-300k super car can get near on the quarter and in the canyons,, and still slow down for the turns,, and make them.

That said, I may be selling mine. [:D] Anyone interrested?

geoken

07-08-2004, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by rainmaker
This thread is getting retarded....

Now that being said. How many of you really race in a Canyon everyday? Or street race your Ferrari every night?

In that case It's all about the ballin' factor, wich the Ferrari wins hands down.