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EVIL-AUDI
07-01-2004, 11:44 AM
Has anyone just gone without the center resonator on there exhaust system. I am tired of my setup and want it a bit louder. I have heard nightmare stories of the sound without it, but I want some first hand experiences from you guys. Thanks.

dukez
07-01-2004, 11:51 AM
Not me, but i have heard systems without them. It's really loud. Not sure how it would sound/drone inside the car, but outside its really deep and loud. A low low soundwave that travels through buildings. [:D] Kinda like 50hz a subwoofer would make.

EVIL-AUDI
07-01-2004, 12:01 PM
Hmm, I think I wouldn't mind that , but I figure that the droning is going to be unbearable at those levels
Thanks Dukez.

turbo_junkie
07-01-2004, 12:03 PM
I didn't use a resonator on my GTI's 3" exhaust and it was LOUD. Highway speeds the droning got real annoying , but the plus side was if I could get it to hit the right note driving through parking lots, it would set off car alarms [:D]

EVIL-AUDI
07-01-2004, 12:06 PM
haha, I get the alarm thing now from how it sounds and from my subs. I always thought it was oud enough as it is, but I think I may try it without. I mean I can always just replace it again it I am not happy.

littlewhite
07-01-2004, 12:08 PM
My exhaust is 2.5" all the way with a Borla muffler, although i never heard my car zooming around outside, i found it not extremely loud in the inside. I sort of want it a little louder.

EVIL-AUDI
07-01-2004, 12:09 PM
Thanks. I am leaning towards it now. Probably have it done tomorrow. I am running that same setup now.

white fish
07-01-2004, 12:16 PM
not on my audi
But I did that on my Mx-3 with a 2.5V6 no resonator, no cat and just a muffler 2.5" piping and it was so raspy I hated it

2 days and I got a resonator

maxh2o
07-01-2004, 12:40 PM
Took it off on my old GTi and ran 2.5" through a supersprint highflo muffler. Sweet sounding growl, not overly loud and I never got angry looks from anyone on the road. Do it!

EVIL-AUDI
07-01-2004, 12:40 PM
Keep them coming

Saturnine
07-01-2004, 12:43 PM
You still want those resonators Evil??

EVIL-AUDI
07-01-2004, 12:48 PM
That's what I was contemplating. Going without or running one of them in place of what I have now.

OverSpun
07-01-2004, 06:15 PM
ahh, i wrote a big long post to this earlier and the site died right as i hit submit and it didnt work and i lost it. anyways to sum it up...

my friend had a HFC to a 2.5" DP to a borla muffler with straight pipes, it was loud as hell and unbearable in the car, it gave us the biggest headache ever. he added a glasspack and it wasnt so bad. basically it sounded like a POS honda, pretty gross, we couldnt even stand sitting in the car, so id reccomend against it evil, unless you like obnoxiously loud cars, audis shouldnt be super loud, but tasteful sounding IMO, the borla exhaust has a good note.

DDQ
07-01-2004, 06:42 PM
A 4-banger will never give a nice exhaust tone that most want. The louder it is, the ricier and more Honda-like it sounds. Just my opinion. It's just the nature of noise put out by a 4 cyl. engine.

Although I'm partial, many other owners also agree, the Scorpion is the closest sound to a 6 cylinder car. But, it's not crazy, it's just much deeper, and you only hear it when you really hammer it.

+decipher
07-01-2004, 09:19 PM
I still have the center resonator on my Audi, BUT I removed it on my '91 GTI.

What I can tell you is that without that center resonator and with a scorpion DTM style muffler the car is freakishly loud. Like "ticket me now officer" loud. It also gave the car an annoying drone on the highway, and after I took the superstreet tour to NOPI in it, I was really close to being certifiably insane. However, it did make the car sound like it had a huge engine in it.

DDQ
07-01-2004, 09:25 PM
No one that has ever rode in my car (old parents included) have even noticed my exhaust is louder than stock. Unless I'm WOT, you don't even notice it.

I'm running straight 70mm pipe to the muffler. You can't even hear my car idle. Even when I peg it you just get a deep sound, nothing ricey, and is not even close to being able to set off an alarm. Doesn't even bother anyone in the cabin. Mabye I'm just the minority.

I've never heard a four-banger be that loud, it will just sound like bumble-bees.

TheEZest
07-01-2004, 11:31 PM
im pretty sure that A4 in SC took his center resonator out of his borla. i think that he said he was really happy with it. there was a whole post on the old AZ about this. are those posts archived anywhere or something? if not, im sure A4 in SC will be around soon enough to give his opinion.

littlewhite
07-02-2004, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by DDQ

I've never heard a four-banger be that loud, it will just sound like bumble-bees.

Reminds me of the 5zigen exhaust. Man, those are pretty bad. Beee BEEEE ~

EVIL-AUDI
07-02-2004, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by TheEZest
im pretty sure that A4 in SC took his center resonator out of his borla. i think that he said he was really happy with it. there was a whole post on the old AZ about this. are those posts archived anywhere or something? if not, im sure A4 in SC will be around soon enough to give his opinion.

No he has a glasspack in it's place. I think I'm going to go with nothing now, then if I hate it I'll run Saturn resonator.

Daft
07-02-2004, 06:10 AM
The one thing you'll really notice is the note will get very raspy. The resonator on the A4 1.8T does a very good job of hiding the civic/neon ricer sound. It does endup quiet though.

I'm sure you can put some other resonator on there that will retain a low note that you want without a large flow restiction. There's alot of 3" exhust systems out there for Jap cars that encorporate resonators just for this reason. Everyone hates the dirtbike exahust note these days.

EVIL-AUDI
07-02-2004, 06:35 AM
hmmm, now you got me thinking again. I really am not looking forward to that kinda sound. I just wanted it to be a bit deeper than it already is.

Daft
07-02-2004, 06:45 AM
Well, removing the resonator will definately not make it deeper.[:p]

Why don't you make a new one?

Buy a new one in a larger pipe diam and fabricate it into the exsisting pipes of your exhaust system.

EVIL-AUDI
07-02-2004, 07:02 AM
I may just go with Saturn's resonators. Where is he, get him in here now!

jrodmk2
07-02-2004, 08:22 AM
i have both resonators, but no cat and it is like a race car. quite loud when warmed up. you definitely know i am coming down the street. that and some spoolage[:)] i'm going to get a hiflo cat hopefully that will make it nice again(low key) oh yeah i have the miltek system

EVIL-AUDI
07-02-2004, 08:24 AM
I was going to go with the test pipe, but I just can't live with that CEL. My car is nice and dep now and from what I have been told, easily heard from far away, but I just wanted more.

Saturnine
07-02-2004, 09:18 AM
Ill be shipping them out later today Sir [:D]

nizmosx
07-02-2004, 09:19 AM
damn you guys should have heard my old nissan s13. it was an 89. it had the truck motor ka24e, with headers no cat, and an apex n1 dual exhaust wich was for a s13 with the silvia motor. at the track my car was louder that almost all the v8 domestics and this is no joke. civics would start reving up for no reason when in the tech line so domestics started doing it, then i did and after i reved everyone stopped. the car was INSANE LOUD and yes i got tickets, DO I WANT THAT AGAIN<<<<NO but it was cool while it lasted. people can hear me from miles away, there has been many of times im hauling ass at wot and there is a cop. since my exhaust is quiet in my a4 i never got pulled over. cops say they cant realy see your car speeding but they can hear it. AND WHY HELP THEM HEAR IT......... i think its cooler that the car is quieter, i love my neuspeed and the weird whistle it makes at wot. it makes people wonder whats under the hood.

A4 in SC
07-02-2004, 01:11 PM
Sorry I'm late chiming in. Yes, Evil, I ran mine w/o the resonator, and I HATED it. It certainly wasn't deeper! It was way too loud for me. Loud in a very bad way - loss of deep tone, and was pretty high-pitched.

I'd certainly install some sort of resonator in there. I really like my setup's sound. Moops has an APR exhaust, and to be honest, it sounds very much like mine. The only thing is that my piping is stock w/ the glasspack and Remus rear box. I want to go w/ at least a 2.5" pipe downpipe back. No custom cat for me either.

I just have to convince myself that the APR exhaust performance gains is worth $900. I have the sound now, so all I would be gaining is performance (which is just fine w/ me - it's all about performance, anyway, right?!?!?!)

Mike

EVIL-AUDI
07-05-2004, 09:59 AM
I'm gonna go with Saturn's and see what's it's like from there.

OverSpun
07-05-2004, 10:09 AM
glad you decided to get another resonator... straight pipe would have been rediculous...

speaking of which, does anyone have a sound clip of a borla exhaust with a test pipe? i want to see how it sounds.

EVIL-AUDI
07-05-2004, 10:30 AM
I'd have a testpipe right now if I didn't hate that CEL

dtmevolution
07-05-2004, 02:14 PM
where can you get a glass pack for a 2.5"?

Devious27t
07-05-2004, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by EVIL-AUDI
Has anyone just gone without the center resonator on there exhaust system. I am tired of my setup and want it a bit louder. I have heard nightmare stories of the sound without it, but I want some first hand experiences from you guys. Thanks.

i was runnin s4 muffler only and it was loud as hell i was not a fan so i put a straight through magnaflow resonator on it it was louder than the stock one but not as loud as not having one.

EVIL-AUDI
07-05-2004, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by dtmevolution
where can you get a glass pack for a 2.5"?

Around here they are readily available at most auto parts stores for very cheap.

A4 in SC
07-05-2004, 05:22 PM
Yep, I got my glasspack at a local muffler/general automotive shop. Of course, they don't have a madrel bender!! ARGH!!![rolleyes]

Later,
Mike

Silvant
07-05-2004, 05:37 PM
i was running my 3inch with no resonator for about 2weeks when i first did it.. ended up having to carry earplugs around with me.. granted its 3inch and i was running it through an apr high flo straight to a borla xr-1 muffler that you can look straight through.. it was deep and LOUD.. ended up adding a 4inch allied resonator and running it backwards so the gases are flowing with the louvers instead of against. made just the right amount of difference..
i know im comparing apples to oranges with my set up and yours but whatever.

EVIL-AUDI
07-05-2004, 05:42 PM
Thanks silvant. I figured your's wasn't the quietest around.

Daft
07-05-2004, 07:05 PM
Evil, what is John sending you? B6 resonators?

BTW, I know why you'd get the CEL with the testpipe but, why can't you just weld a new bung on there for the 2nd bank O2 sensor? The 2nd bank O2 is only checking the difference in O2 quantity between bank 1 and bank 2. Will it throw the code if there is no difference?

Just thinking out loud....

Silvant
07-05-2004, 11:17 PM
it would still throw one i think..

$teady$upreme
07-06-2004, 12:52 AM
evil, i am running the Neuspeed G1 turboback with resonator on but without muffler. if u want a soudn clip i have one~

littlewhite
07-06-2004, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by $teady$upreme
evil, i am running the Neuspeed G1 turboback with resonator on but without muffler. if u want a soudn clip i have one~

Yo bro, my exhaust doesnt sound that loud outside right? You heard it couple times before when i came up

EVIL-AUDI
07-06-2004, 05:22 AM
Please send me the sound clip, and yes I've heard that they still throw the code. Damn these cars. And No Saturn is sneding me a set of magnaflow resonators that he had but didn't thorw on his car. I'll only be using one of them.

$teady$upreme
07-06-2004, 07:34 AM
yah doesn't sound very loud outside, but inside is kinda droning, but is all good, as long as u can bare with it[:D]


Originally posted by blackknight
Yo bro, my exhaust doesnt sound that loud outside right? You heard it couple times before when i came up

$teady$upreme
07-06-2004, 07:35 AM
AIM you??


Originally posted by EVIL-AUDI
Please send me the sound clip, and yes I've heard that they still throw the code. Damn these cars. And No Saturn is sneding me a set of magnaflow resonators that he had but didn't thorw on his car. I'll only be using one of them.

EVIL-AUDI
07-06-2004, 08:55 AM
Please or email is fine.

dtmevolution
07-06-2004, 09:44 AM
will resonators work the same as a glasspack. I dont mind a relatively loud exhuast, i just dont want droning. Are glass packs and resonators universal? all i have to do is buy same diameter as my system and throw it on?

Steadysupreme: can you email me a sound clip also. i have a g1 right now also.

Saturnine
07-06-2004, 09:49 AM
Yup


Originally posted by dtmevolution
all i have to do is buy same diameter as my system and throw it on?

dtmevolution
07-06-2004, 09:55 AM
hopefully my DP will be ready soon

EVIL-AUDI
07-06-2004, 10:42 AM
Yeah, they are fairly easy to put on.

Alexaris
07-06-2004, 11:10 AM
Evil

i take out my middle resonator, i like a lot the sound, a little bit loud but good, remember that my exhaust is a supersprint, so it was real quite, first I installed a glasspack, but i hate the noise, you heard the glasspack not the engine, so now Im happy with the sound, sometimes I would like to diminished the sound, but when Im driving fast i remember why I take it out

So it is better to take out the middle and listen to the sound then if you dont like it just trow something there, not civic sound by the way, not ricer, just louder on the same tones

I have a sound clip, where to send it

EVIL-AUDI
07-06-2004, 11:14 AM
Please send it to evil55555@hotmail.com or PM me. My AZ email is down at the moment. Now you have me wondering what to do again. I do have a Borla rear muffler, so it's already louder then a supersprint.

Alexaris
07-06-2004, 11:20 AM
Evil

Just one thing each clip (well they are mpeg) sound is 12 Megas and 1 is 25 Megas, cause I have 3 sound clips

1) Stock
2) just Supersprint
3) Supersprint w/o middle resonator

I dont think you can send that amount of info

What do you think

EVIL-AUDI
07-06-2004, 11:23 AM
You can send it to my AZ email aswell. It can take that much info. I'll be able to retreive it later on today.

Alexaris
07-06-2004, 11:27 AM
YGM

Sent it to both

EVIL-AUDI
07-06-2004, 11:38 AM
Thanks.

dtmevolution
07-07-2004, 02:14 PM
anyone have sound clips. send to my gmail account. dtmevolution@gmail.com
with specs of course so i know what i'm listening to. thanks

EVIL-AUDI
07-07-2004, 06:15 PM
I never got any clips