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giago
06-30-2004, 10:41 PM
I was thinking of getting the STaSIS Street Sport suspension.
Would it be Better that a sping shock combo??
My other option was eibach, h&r or neuspeed springs whith bilstein shocks.
But i want to know whith which one of all those springs i will have the stiffer ride.
What is the spring Rate??
Any opinions??
neoprufrok
06-30-2004, 11:15 PM
Saturnine has it on his car. I rode with him and thought it was REALLY nice. Its like stock sport, but just a tiny bit stiffer. If I remember correctly, the spring rates are around 450...
You have to take into account that the springs are progressive, thus the rate is different at the beginning of compression and at the end of compression.
His kit rocks and now he can dial the height exactly as he wants it!
I have those and I'm very happy with mine. Fully height and rebound adjustable, plus under a grand....[cool]
A4 - Oh Snap
06-30-2004, 11:59 PM
Firmness-wise, is it much better than the sport suspension that comes with the car?
Zev@Avalon
07-01-2004, 01:45 AM
If you are looking for the Street Sport Suspension, or advice on how to set up your car give us a call at 303-400-3001.
We won the Eurotuner GP last month on the Stasis suspension and brake kits ; needless to say, we are quite pleased to add Stasis to our lineup of offerings.
giago
07-01-2004, 09:11 AM
Would this stasis co's setup will be stiffer than a H&R or
neuspeed spring whith bilstein shock's???
neoprufrok
07-01-2004, 09:19 AM
its really not about being stiffer.
The Stasis kit is perfectly matched to give you a ride thats a little stiffer than stock sport, but without the harsness or bounciness. Harshness is sort of sudden jarring with bumps. As if the shock is either dampening too hard for the spring rate.
Stasis sets up the coilovers to be a great firm ride from the box. The other thing about coilovers is that you set your ride height perfectly. No regrets afterwards when you think the front is too high or teh rear is too high. Its perfect what you would want it at. If you know how to adjust them yourself, than its even better.
Saturnine
07-01-2004, 09:28 AM
Yeah, i love my CO's.. Suuch a good deal[:D]
giago
07-01-2004, 09:51 AM
Saturnine where did you get them?
Zev@Avalon
07-01-2004, 11:40 AM
Guys, the Street Sport Kit will not be super stiff. It will give you a more compliant and sharper handling feel compared to stock. The Bilstein/H&R combo would be our second choice sice it is not a matched setup like the Stasis'. if you are looking for stiffness, go with the Track Sport suspension where you can select spring weights from 550 lbs to 1100 lbs. We would be happy to offer any of you suggestions as to what to run on the car if you call us with more specific information about your requirements.
303-400-3001
Saturnine
07-01-2004, 12:10 PM
I just called Stasis and ordered them.. They're located an hour or so away, so i figured i'd eliminate the "middle" man and just go right to the source..
Jeremy@Matrix is where you should get a set if you interested..
Originally posted by giago
Saturnine where did you get them?
neoprufrok
07-01-2004, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Zev@Avalon
Guys, the Street Sport Kit will not be super stiff. It will give you a more compliant and sharper handling feel compared to stock. The Bilstein/H&R combo would be our second choice sice it is not a matched setup like the Stasis'. if you are looking for stiffness, go with the Track Sport suspension where you can select spring weights from 550 lbs to 1100 lbs. We would be happy to offer any of you suggestions as to what to run on the car if you call us with more specific information about your requirements.
303-400-3001
My understanding is that track sport is not yet available.
audidood
07-01-2004, 01:05 PM
correct. it's not available for B6 yet. Rumors have it they're going with another maker (not koni) for the new TrackSports.
giago
07-01-2004, 02:31 PM
Should i go whith eibach, neuspeed or H&R for a stiffer ride?
i wanted H&R race but is not avaliable for b6.
and maybe instead of theEibach pro kit i should go whith the sportline, that is lower than the pro kit, but i don't know if it is stiffer.
Saturnine
07-01-2004, 02:47 PM
You can get HR race for the B6.. Hyper has them and so do a few others[:D]
BTW--> Im selling adj. bilstens w/ HR sport springs.. Check out the classifieds [:D]
fongaroos
07-01-2004, 02:52 PM
if you're lookin for STASIS COs i know jeff moss over at torque factory has a few in stock and is trying to get rid of them...
and im pretty sure hyper has neuspeed race...
iirc H&R only makes ONE TYPE of spring for the B6s. neuspeed has the SPORT and the RACE version but H&R only has one type of spring...
neoprufrok
07-01-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by audidood
correct. it's not available for B6 yet. Rumors have it they're going with another maker (not koni) for the new TrackSports.
Really? Hmmm. I'll have to check with Stasis on that.
giago
07-01-2004, 06:51 PM
Saturnine
Which setup was stiffer??
the one you are selling H&R bilstein
or your actual setup of co's?
neoprufrok
07-01-2004, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by neoprufrok
Really? Hmmm. I'll have to check with Stasis on that.
They will use Koni on the track sport per Ryan @ stasis.
giago
07-02-2004, 11:15 AM
Saturnine???
Saturnine
07-02-2004, 11:23 AM
What im selling. (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13316)
A4NCAR
07-02-2004, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by giago
I was thinking of getting the STaSIS Street Sport suspension.
Would it be Better that a sping shock combo??
My other option was eibach, h&r or neuspeed springs whith bilstein shocks.
But i want to know whith which one of all those springs i will have the stiffer ride.
What is the spring Rate??
Any opinions??
STaSIS "Street Sport" / Koni CO = Same Thing.
IMO, CO's are always the better choice to an "off the shelf" spring/shock combo. With height adjustibility, you get exactly the look you want (plus some damper adjustment with some; Koni, KW V2/V3,..). Spring/shock combos are also not R&D as a pair, so there's no telling how they will interact in terms of ride quality and height; that's why you see/feel the differences between them on the same app. There are only a couple set ups I know of that are; H&R's Cup Kit and Sportec's Lowering Suspension Kit.
I have H&R CO's and I'm quite happy with them. There a bit firmer riding then ABT or Oettinger CO's, but they give me the handling, control I want. Not sure how they compare to the STaSIS/Koni CO's though. Regardless, the CO set up will be noticeably firmer then OEM, and for the most part, firmer then a spring/shock combo (depending on damper and spring type/rate).
At $995 for the STaSIS/Koni CO's, that's hard to pass up for a spring/shock combo priced not much lower. Just buy them direct.
jeremy@matrix
07-02-2004, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Saturnine
I just called Stasis and ordered them.. They're located an hour or so away, so i figured i'd eliminate the "middle" man and just go right to the source..
Jeremy@Matrix is where you should get a set if you interested..
Thank you kindly sir.
Spring rate is 450/440 for the B6 A4.
STaSIS Street Sport Koni Coilover Kit for B6 A4 1.8T/3.0 Quattro and FWD; 4 KONI sport dampers; single adjustable (rebound), narrow band; suspension disassembly required for adjustment; cadmium plated threaded steel damper bodies; height adjustable; 4 progressive rate KONI springs (450/440 spring rate for B6 A4); balanced and adjusted on SPA damper dynamometer
One set left on special; $895!
Plus, no sales tax from us! [:)]
Best,
Jeremy
jeremy@matrix
07-02-2004, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by A4NCAR
STaSIS "Street Sport" / Koni CO = Same Thing.
IMO, CO's are always the better choice to an "off the shelf" spring/shock combo. With height adjustibility, you get exactly the look you want (plus some damper adjustment with some; Koni, KW V2/V3,..). Spring/shock combos are also not R&D as a pair, so there's no telling how they will interact in terms of ride quality and height; that's why you see/feel the differences between them on the same app. There are only a couple set ups I know of that are; H&R's Cup Kit and Sportec's Lowering Suspension Kit.
I have H&R CO's and I'm quite happy with them. There a bit firmer riding then ABT or Oettinger CO's, but they give me the handling, control I want. Not sure how they compare to the STaSIS/Koni CO's though. Regardless, the CO set up will be noticeably firmer then OEM, and for the most part, firmer then a spring/shock combo (depending on damper and spring type/rate).
At $995 for the STaSIS/Koni CO's, that's hard to pass up for a spring/shock combo priced not much lower.
Pretty much........
In regards to the STaSIS Street Sport kit, STaSIS puts the dampers on their shock dyno, matches the set, sets the damping for optimum ride/handling, and also set the spring perch heights.
So yes, it is the same basic "hard parts" as the off-the-shelf Koni c/o kit, but the STaSIS kit is different in that it is pre-modified and set up by STaSIS before shipment.
I would agree with you that coilovers are worth the extra cost(if any over conventional dampers/springs in this case) for the height adjustability...as well as the rebound damping adjustment.
For this special price of $895 for the STaSIS Street Sport coilovers, you can't beat it!!
Giago,
One 1 set left at this special price. I will be here at the shop for 45more min. Call me!!! You won't be disappointed.
Best regards,
Jeremy
giago
07-03-2004, 12:52 AM
Will i continue using my bump stops
whith coilovers???
mcpath
07-03-2004, 01:45 AM
If I had the money I would go with KW.
giago
07-03-2004, 12:12 PM
mmmmm...
i don't know if get the stasis or Eibach sportline whith bilsteins...
i'm getting crazy!
jeremy@matrix
07-06-2004, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by giago
Will i continue using my bump stops
whith coilovers???
Yes, the STaSIS Street Sport kit re-use the factory bump stops. We recommend trimming them by 1-2 inches for the lowered ride heights.
jeremy@matrix
07-06-2004, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by giago
mmmmm...
i don't know if get the stasis or Eibach sportline whith bilsteins...
i'm getting crazy!
The Eibach/Bilstein setup won't be a true coilover which means no ride height adjustability. As well, no rebound adjustment either. [:(]