The E05 is installed.

[Villains]

I took the car down to Euro Code yesterday to have the E05 installed. It took David 4 hours from start to finish for the install. That doesn't include the 1 hour cool down period before he started work (we got breakfast while the car cooled). As part of the install, I had David install Euro Code's Test Pipe. This is a great mod (really good bang for the buck).

Okay, now on to the important stuff:

The install was flawless. Everything went in without issue and looks great. The car idles and sounds stock. The test pipe combined with the Milltek exhaust still sounds very quiet; almost stock. The boost comes on almost the same as stock; near 2500 RPM. Then it pulls, HARD, all the way to redline. The engine revs so much faster now. I cannot believe the torque this thing makes! It reminds me of my Mustang. My car feels like a very powerful sport sedan, watch out Bimmers, I'm coming for you! [:p] We did not get a chance to dyno the car yesterday, but will this coming Tuesday. I will post the results as soon as I get them; but my butt dyno is reading about 250 CHP! Over all, I am very VERY happy!

On to some pics:

The E05:
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/villains/E05/E05-2.jpg
Attention:
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/villains/E05/Warning.jpg
K03 Vs. E05:
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/villains/E05/E05_-_K03.jpg
Test Pipe:
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/villains/E05/Test_Pipe.jpg
Installed:
http://img25.photobucket.com/albums/v76/villains/E05/Installed.jpg

[Silence]

Looks good. Wanna race? ;)

[Vanimaniac]

Awesome! I kept refreshing this site til you posted!
Anyways so the car feels WAY faster than just Revo'd KO3?
Feels as fast/faster than a B5 S4?
What was total cost if you don't mind me asking?
Congrats to you!

Van

[Villains]

Originally posted by Silence
Looks good. Wanna race? ;)

No!

LOL, well maybe after the Nitrous install! [:p]

[HICK]

Sweet, congrats, till Tuesday then.

[Villains]

Originally posted by Vanimaniac
Awesome! I kept refreshing this site til you posted!

Anyways so the car feels WAY faster than just Revo'd KO3?
Yes! It feels incredible!


Feels as fast/faster than a B5 S4?
Not sure, never driven one, but it should be close!

What was total cost if you don't mind me asking?
I have to say, David gave me a great deal. I will have to ask him if it is okay to disclose.

Congrats to you!
Thanks!

Van

[Vanimaniac]

Awesome! I just emailed David to see what detail he was willing to give.
I'm gonna wait until I hit 50K which should be next spring.
But I can't wait for more horsepower.
Last night I ran with a buddy of mine in his chipped B5 S4.
He left me like I was sitting still.

So did you get injectors, exhaust, etc? Or already had it?

Van

[wsdfOO]

congrats man!

[Villains]

Originally posted by Vanimaniac
Awesome! I just emailed David to see what detail he was willing to give.
I'm gonna wait until I hit 50K which should be next spring.
But I can't wait for more horsepower.
Last night I ran with a buddy of mine in his chipped B5 S4.
He left me like I was sitting still.

So did you get injectors, exhaust, etc? Or already had it?

Van

The kit comes with the E05, TT225 injectors, spark plugs, Revo software and gaskets. I already had a Milltek exhaust and Forge DV. Just FYI, my car only has 10500 miles on it and this is the second turbo upgrade so far. The way I figure it, why wait??? [;)]

[madrussian]

Nice... you're running the exact setup I want to run...

I have my Thermal Exhaust already, Ecode Test Pipe comes Tues, in talks for the injectors... and trying to find somewhere to buy the E05 seperately, hopefully David wont mind providing me w/ spark plugs, gaskets and the Revo software for a good price.

Nice to hear though, glad you're happy. I can't wait to see dyno results...

[G_A4]

nice. looks really good. congrats on the easy intstall. good to hear that everything went smooth. can't wait to see results. [:D]

[A4 - Oh Snap]

Dude. Those pictures are excellent. I cannot wait to see your dyno results. If you were to get the car dyno'ed in the evening, I'd love to stop by after work to watch the dyno session and check out the E05 setup.

One quick question...will this car pass CA Smog tests?

[Villains]

Originally posted by enjoiweb
Nice... you're running the exact setup I want to run...

I have my Thermal Exhaust already, Ecode Test Pipe comes Tues, in talks for the injectors... and trying to find somewhere to buy the E05 seperately, hopefully David wont mind providing me w/ spark plugs, gaskets and the Revo software for a good price.

Nice to hear though, glad you're happy. I can't wait to see dyno results...

Why not get it all from David? I don't think you will get a better deal trying to piece it all together separately. The K04 can be done this way because it is an OE turbo, the E05 is not. Another reason to source it all from David is support. If everything doesn't go as planned, he can get it all sorted out for you. But if you piece it together, then you will run into finger pointing and BS. Talk to David and see if he can give you a package deal or something. I would not suggest the 'put it together myself' strategy.

[Villains]

Originally posted by A4 - Oh Snap
One quick question...will this car pass CA Smog tests?

Not with the test pipe installed. But that is the beauty of the test pipe; it can easily be swapped with the stock cat. After that, the car should pass without a problem.

[CO AVANT]

Congrats! How does the clutch hold?

[Saturnine]

Schweeeeett Derek.. Glad that you got everything sorted out.. Any pinging?

[Villains]

The clutch is holding up just fine. Even after many, MANY hard launches in a row. The stock clutch will last a while, it was fine with my T28 and it is still okay with the E05. I will upgrade it soon, just so I can get a lot better launches. I will definitely need it when the nitrous is installed.

John, there is no pinging at all. We logged a lot of runs (both street and on the freeway) with a VAG COM and no detonation at all. I just took her for another long hard drive and this is the happiest I've been after a mod. The T28 gave me trouble from the start and even the change from stock to chipped doesn't compare to the change from chipped to E05. This mod definitely gets my approval and recommendation.

[Vanimaniac]

Did you happen to have your car dyno'd in chipped form for comparison on Tuesday?

[Villains]

No, I have never dyno'd the Audi. We won't know how much of a gain the turbo was over the chip, but at least we will know what the turbo makes. I hate to say this, but the dyno is going to have to wait until Friday. I was unable to get Tuesday off from work, but I already have Friday off because of the holiday. Sorry guys but we are going to have to wait until Friday.

Until then, if you local Socallers want to get together and check out the car let me know. I'm up for some evening GTGs.

[Avant Mat]

Derrick,

I'm interested for the test pipe but I'm concerning the consequence of de-cat as the EGT sensor will reduce fuel supply when they sensed the air flow increased substantially after de-cat. I'm wondering if you put a dummy sensor inside the test pipe to trick the computer ??

[Villains]

Originally posted by Avant Mat
Derrick,

I'm interested for the test pipe but I'm concerning the consequence of de-cat as the EGT sensor will reduce fuel supply when they sensed the air flow increased substantially after de-cat. I'm wondering if you put a dummy sensor inside the test pipe to trick the computer ??

The REVO software simply turns off the sensor. No check engine light, no change to fuel delivery. Trust me, with the E05 making 1.5 bar and holding 1 bar to redline, I would notice a loss in fuel and so would my knock sensors! [:p] [;)]

[Avant Mat]

Derrick,

Thanks for your response and this is exactly the same thing that Revo Mitch told me, he can do something inside the software to trick the computer. It is easy for him.

By the way, how's the low rev after de-cat as I'm afriad the low rev will be lost in the jungle if I de-cat.

[giago]

Derrick
How much for the test pipe???
when will you install the nitrous?
and which one would it be?

[Villains]

Avant Mat,

The low end feels the same. Like I said above the boost comes on at about the same time as stock ~ 2500 RPM. I really haven't felt any real loss lower then that.

giago,

The test pipe is $199.00 for EuroCode. I don't have a definite date for the nitrous install, although I already have the kit and it's just sitting in my garage. I will probably wait to install it when I get the FMIC from EuroCode. The reason for that is the FMIC comes with aluminum piping all the way to the throttle body, so taping it will be much easier and smarter then taping the rubber stock boot. The kit I am using is from NOS. It is their wet system (both nitrous and fuel are sprayed from the nozzle).

[zemun2]

Derrick,
Glad to hear everything went well.

D,

[Villains]

Originally posted by zemun2
Derrick,
Glad to hear everything went well.

D,

Thanks Bro. [:D]

[neoprufrok]

Awesome Derrick! Its real good to hear another turbo success story. Thanks for the great writeup and I hope to see/hear similar good news from the Tuesday dyno run!!!

Oh yeah, and I was half expecting Linda O'Neill to be modelling that turbo of yours! [:p]

[davidkae]

Awesome....glad to hear everything went smooth and your happy. Can you tell me if the miltek exhaust sounded louder with the test pipe?

[sweettalker]

Hey Derrick, can I ask why you went to the E05 instead of the regular (non sport ) k04? Because if i recall, the E05 is a modified K03 turbo with bigger fan inside the turbo where as the k04 is just a bigger turbo than the k03? So I'm thinking wouldn't the k04 yield better gains? I don't know I was just thinking that, what do you think?

[Silence]

K03 is no bigger than a k04. Has a bigger compressor housing, as does the e-05 if you can see in the pics.

[sweettalker]

Originally posted by Silence
K03 is no bigger than a k04. Has a bigger compressor housing, as does the e-05 if you can see in the pics.

So the k03 and the k04-15 is the same size? so basically size and power wise, it's k03>k04-15>then e05 right?

[Silence]

Essentially, yes. Although the e-05 isn't as popular, nor tried and true like the k04. It really is a good little turbo though. HAs great torque.

[Avant Mat]

Derrick,

Got you and I will jump for the test-pipe very soon.

[Villains]

Thanks for the kind words guys!

Rich,

Keep your eyes peeled for the Linda O' Neil stuff, it will be coming soon. [;)]

davidkae,

The exhaust got just slightly louder. But it still almost sounds stock at idle. Only after the boost comes on do you even notice that there is an exhaust installed. I can't be happier with the Milltek.

sweettalker,

As David pointed out, the housings are the same size. The E05 has a bigger inlet then the K04, bigger compressor wheel, and more aggressive blades. In other words, it has more potential to make power.

Avant Mat,

Glad to here that you will go with the test pipe. This is the next best bang for the buck mod next to a chip. For $200, you are getting an extra 15 HP! And that is dyno proven not just a guestimate or BS. It was proven on 2 different cars on MAHA dynos.

[Saturnine]

The Ko3 and the Ko4 are the same physically but the Ko4 has different internals.. The Eo5 has a slightly larger cold side than the Ko4..


Originally posted by sweettalker
So the k03 and the k04-15 is the same size? so basically size and power wise, it's k03>k04-15>then e05 right?

[A4NCAR]

Derrick,

It's good to hear that this E05/REVO upgrade is running flawlessly so far and that you are satisfied. I'm sure you'll be hungry for more power though soon [:D] Looking forward to the dyno.

[Villains]

Originally posted by A4NCAR
I'm sure you'll be hungry for more power though soon [:D] Looking forward to the dyno.

That's when the nitrous and front mount intercooler get installed. Then it's bye bye stage 3 cars! [:D]

Looks like I'll be hitting the dyno this Friday. I'll post the results as soon as I get back.

[Saturnine]

I second that.

Any bets that he'll break 215whp? [:D]


Originally posted by A4NCAR
Looking forward to the dyno.

[Villains]

Originally posted by Saturnine
I second that.

Any bets that he'll break 215whp? [:D]

I don't know, I hope! I doubt it though.

[neoprufrok]

Originally posted by Villains
That's when the nitrous and front mount intercooler get installed. Then it's bye bye stage 3 cars! [:D]

Looks like I'll be hitting the dyno this Friday. I'll post the results as soon as I get back.

Maybe this is a better topic for another post, but I was wondering about nitrous. How is that going to be routed into the system and what shot will you be using!?

Man oh man your car is going to be a beast!

[Villains]

Originally posted by neoprufrok
Maybe this is a better topic for another post, but I was wondering about nitrous. How is that going to be routed into the system and what shot will you be using!?

Man oh man your car is going to be a beast!

Rich,

I currently have the NOS direct port system. What that means is that it has four foggers that get tapped into your intake manifold right in front of the valves. They spray both nitrous and fuel directly into the head (hence the name). I was going to install it this way, but I really don't want to tap the manifold. So instead, I will use a single fogger and place it in the intake pipe right before the throttle body. This is commonly known as a "wet system." They call it a wet system because it spays both nitrous and fuel where a dry system only sprays nitrous. A dry setup is not recommended in a turbo or supercharged application. I am waiting for the FMIC before I install the nitrous because the FMIC comes with aluminum piping all the way to the throttle body. This makes tapping it a lot easier and I won't have to worry about boost leaking out, like I would if I were to tap the rubber hose that is on there now. As far as shot size; I will start with a 35 shot and go up from there while logging the engine. If I can get a 50 shot with 91 octane and no detonation that is the shot I will run.

Derrick

[neoprufrok]

Originally posted by Villains
Rich,

I currently have the NOS direct port system. What that means is that it has four foggers that get tapped into your intake manifold right in front of the valves. They spray both nitrous and fuel directly into the head (hence the name). I was going to install it this way, but I really don't want to tap the manifold. So instead, I will use a single fogger and place it in the intake pipe right before the throttle body. This is commonly known as a "wet system." They call it a wet system because it spays both nitrous and fuel where a dry system only sprays nitrous. A dry setup is not recommended in a turbo or supercharged application. I am waiting for the FMIC before I install the nitrous because the FMIC comes with aluminum piping all the way to the throttle body. This makes tapping it a lot easier and I won't have to worry about boost leaking out, like I would if I were to tap the rubber hose that is on there now. As far as shot size; I will start with a 35 shot and go up from there while logging the engine. If I can get a 50 shot with 91 octane and no detonation that is the shot I will run.

Derrick

Great info Derrick. I've run a dry system before, but it was on my NA 00 Civic, so its nice to know how such systems would run on an A4.

[DLSJ5]

Originally posted by Villains
That's when the nitrous and front mount intercooler get installed. Then it's bye bye stage 3 cars! [:D]



I'm sorry what's this you say? I didn't understand, what did....hmmm, maybe I read your quote wrong...[:D] Bye, bye Stage 3? I love you man, but you're going down when the Stage 3's in. [cool] The "Destroyer" will continue to Destroy all who opposes he.... [;)]

[Saturnine]

OWNED

http://www.horus.at/~bjelli/event/17c3/tshirt-2660-owned.jpg


Originally posted by DLSJ5
I'm sorry what's this you say? I didn't understand, what did....hmmm, maybe I read your quote wrong...[:D] Bye, bye Stage 3? I love you man, but you're going down when the Stage 3's in. [cool] The "Destroyer" will continue to Destroy all who opposes he.... [;)]

[Villains]

LOL [:D]

I humbly bow down to the Destroyer. I meant everyone but you, Drew! You are the one and only Destroyer!!!

[A4NCAR]

Originally posted by Villains
That's when the nitrous and front mount intercooler get installed. Then it's bye bye stage 3 cars! [:D]

Looks like I'll be hitting the dyno this Friday. I'll post the results as soon as I get back.


oh, that's right... laughing gas injections [:D] Well, "bye-bye", until you run out .....

I wish I could stop by for the dyno. I wanted to dyno on 100 octane to see what diference it made.

[Villains]

Originally posted by A4NCAR
Well, "bye-bye", until you run out .....

Ain't gonna happen my friend. I have two bottles and my cousin's shop is a nitrous refill station; which means I get all the free nitrous I want. [;)]

[A4NCAR]

Originally posted by DLSJ5
I'm sorry what's this you say? I didn't understand, what did....hmmm, maybe I read your quote wrong...[:D] Bye, bye Stage 3? I love you man, but you're going down when the Stage 3's in. [cool] The "Destroyer" will continue to Destroy all who opposes he.... [;)]

I know the Destroyer's weakness..... skill [;)]

[A4NCAR]

Originally posted by Villains
Ain't gonna happen my friend. I have two bottles and my cousin's shop is a nitrous refill station; which means I get all the free nitrous I want. [;)]

LOL. Yeah, I'll stop and wait for you to refill, or you can use a long hose [:p] All kidding aside, how long does it last with full use?

[Villains]

Originally posted by A4NCAR
LOL. Yeah, I'll stop and wait for you to refill, or you can use a long hose [:p] All kidding aside, how long does it last with full use?

On a 50 shot it will take 20+ runs before the bottle is empty. With 2 bottles you are talking about 40+ runs. I don't think I will be running out of nitrous because I don't plan on running the car more then 40 times in one day.

All the BS excuses not to use nitrous are from the ones who have never used it and don't know anything about it. Don't listen to the hype. Talk to people who use it and are successful.

[kchan156]

hmm...can't wait for the dyno results.

[DLSJ5]

Originally posted by Villains
LOL [:D]

I humbly bow down to the Destroyer. I meant everyone but you, Drew! You are the one and only Destroyer!!!


[:D] D,

So how do you like Sat's "owned" posts now??? Hilarious BTW, huge LOL!!!!!! Seriously D, your car is very fast w/ the E05 and it's still a small turbo. I'd like you to run your car against a SK04, Steve or Misano, you guys up for it?

Good hanging w/ you bud, that was one helluva weekend!!! My car's going into the paint shop this week, Reznunt is gonna paint the lowers and then she's in the shop for a new A/C!!! We gotta have another GTG, in July. When are you dynoing? I think she'll hit 235-250, but your TQ will be awesome. On 100 octane you should see 260HP!!! Again, car looks real good, and runs fantastic, David did a great job. FMIC time!, then nitrous![cool]

[neoprufrok]

Originally posted by Villains
On a 50 shot it will take 20+ runs before the bottle is empty. With 2 bottles you are talking about 40+ runs. I don't think I will be running out of nitrous because I don't plan on running the car more then 40 times in one day.

All the BS excuses not to use nitrous are from the ones who have never used it and don't know anything about it. Don't listen to the hype. Talk to people who use it and are successful.

Yeah nitrous is definitely fun. Coupled with a good way to manage it (cutting it off at certain rpms) and judicious use, it is a very nice performance mod.

Two things interest me most about nitrous...

1. I liked it because some cars are just overpowered (if there can be such a thing) with too much NA or FI hp, and upsets its balance in the corners especially when boost hits. When you really want that power (straight line acceleration) then nitrous gives you that added kick. So it would seem a very good decision to go with a nice turbo upgrade (k04,e05,sk04) and then use the nitrous as the sugar on top when doing str8 line accel.

2. Carbon fiber bottles. I remember my bottles being fairly heavy and on my civic, it actually changed my weight distribution. I remember Dave (owner of CPP) having CF nitrous bottles on his S4. Do you know of any CF nitrous bottles Derrick?

[Villains]

Rich, I agree with you on the Nitrous. Another reason I like it is that it is not always on. In other words with a big turbo, you have to deal with lag and your engine is stressed all the time. With a medium turbo (ko4 or E05) you get stock drivability then the nitrous gives you that kick you need in a straight line.

For the CF bottles almost all of the major manufacturers have them. NOS makes many different sized CF bottles, so you can definitely find what you are looking for.

[Saturnine]

How much does it cost to fill a bottle anyways?

I have no clue how much nos costs..

[Villains]

Originally posted by Saturnine
How much does it cost to fill a bottle anyways?

I have no clue how much nos costs..

It really depends on where you get it and how much you need. My cousin's shop charges $3.50 a pound. So a 10 pound bottle will cost you about $35. That is why I am so glad I get all the free nitrous I want! [:D]

[A4 - Oh Snap]

any dyno results yet Derrick?

[Villains]

Originally posted by A4 - Oh Snap
any dyno results yet Derrick?

The dyno appointment is tomorrow (Friday) at 11:00 AM. I will post the results as soon as I get back home.

[DLSJ5]

Originally posted by Villains
The dyno appointment is tomorrow (Friday) at 11:00 AM. I will post the results as soon as I get back home.

Good luck Bro, wish I could be there, gotta work. We have to set up another GTG soon.

[Saturnine]

Pics!! Vids!!

[:D]

[giago]

Villains your car is fwd or quattro??

[Villains]

Originally posted by giago
Villains your car is fwd or quattro??

It's Quattro.

[giago]

I'm seriously thinking of getting this kit.
It looks so nice, i hope everything goes ok tomorrow at the dyno.
luck!
now i just wait to see some results of other turbos to make my decision!
My other choice would be the gt28rs from atp and get all the other stuff i need.
But maybe the price is too high so maybe i'll have to wait some more.

[Saturnine]

Soo wait.

Are you using the stock manifold?

[Silence]

Ya, he is.

[Villains]

When did this thread come back to life? I hate not having email notification. [mad] Anyway, I am using the stock manifold.

[piaadoll]

WHOAH!!! where have i BEEN?????

Dayam derrick, now your car is the total sleeper!!!!!

[Saturnine]

Hahha.. I was to lazy to read through the post to see if you were running stock or not[rolleyes]

[:D]

[Villains]

Originally posted by piaadoll
WHOAH!!! where have i BEEN?????

Dayam derrick, now your car is the total sleeper!!!!!

It will be even more of a sleeper next week when the FMIC and nitrous get installed. [;)]

[Avant Mat]

Derrick,

FMIC is the final solution to avoid the problem of heatsoak, a friend of mine installed already and lowered the air intake temperature from 82 degree C to 52 degree C after FMIC in place. Hence, you will know the pull back boost problem has been rectified a lot.


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