Easter turbo teaser pic............

[TighTT]

http://images22.fotki.com/v761/photos/2/232908/4682394/DSC_0580-vi.jpg?1174870916


custom IM is now completed as well.

[AudiXS4X01]

nice as hell, love the color also...

[SoFresh]

So fresh and so clean, love the presentation of your engine bay.... that frickin turbo and intake pipe is larger than your entire motor, lol, love it [up]

[AudiRacerS4]

very nice

[geeboyjibber]

looks monstrous!!!

[Rosati]

Damn adam ive said it before, ill say it again,


Gorgeous.

: : : Cant wait : : :

[Russell2686]

So amazing.

[Oricle]

Thats really sweet.

[ceas]

damn, what do you do for a living again?

[Lazer Viking]

that power steering cap really ruins the color scheme ;)

[Hugh Jass]

Looks impressive.

[TighTT]

that power steering cap really ruins the color scheme ;)

The color scheme has changed. =)

Custom coolant tank, catch-can, as well as all new powdercoating color on the valve cover, intake manifold, etc.

[TighTT]

damn, what do you do for a living again?

Depends who's asking.

[A4quattro1.8T]

Nice setup man, what turbo are you running?

[speedydragon]

damn that looks bigger than my ko3 D:

[JaVa]

the silver FMIC looks so hot w/ the white too!!

[BigA1.8T]

stunning

[Matt@JHM]

Very nice setup, at what RPM is full boost engaged?

[solowb5]

what manifold u runing

[lude2euroa4]

only a matter of time until ANOTHER one of your audi's is in Euro-Tuner

[pipe7284]

i just nutted!!! sorry.

[AudiA4_20T]

Hey man I was the one with the shitty b6 at the meet the other day, I wish you could have had the car out man it looks like its comming along nicely.

[mike-2ptzero]

only a matter of time until ANOTHER one of your audi's is in Euro-Tuner

Ouch, that isn't saying much at all since Euro-Tuner isn't much of a "tuner" magazine.

[Ado]

so hot.

[Euro]

Is it ok to take out the hood lining?

I have always wanted to... are there some real pro and cons?


Your Engine looks exactly like I wish mine did... turbo and all. [up]

[mike-2ptzero]

Is it ok to take out the hood lining?

I have always wanted to... are there some real pro and cons?


Your Engine looks exactly like I wish mine did... turbo and all. [up]

yes it is ok, the early A4's did not come with one at all. I have been running without one in my 2000 for some time and my turbo sits a few inches from the hood.

[Poopie]

anyone figure out what turbo hes using yet? looks like a 4in inlet.

[maxspeed]

meh

[TighTT]

anyone figure out what turbo hes using yet? looks like a 4in inlet.

Figure out? Mike and anyone else here with half a brain has known for sometime.

[Poopie]

yeah sorry i must have less then half a brain then or missed the post.

[Militant-Grunt]

*Drool*

Awesome dude.

[A4Rob]

Figure out? Mike and anyone else here with half a brain has known for sometime.



Sorry, kinda hard to tell by a wide angle pic. 3071?

[dukez]

Cleanest engine bay I've ever seen. [up]

[andernalin_junk]

looks good !

if i not misTAken that GT35R ? with a big a/r ?

[solowb5]

so what manifold then?

[Don Supreme]

Sorry, kinda hard to tell by a wide angle pic. 3071?

3071 -- no way buddy... 3071 is way smaller than whats in that picture.

[TighTT]

so what manifold then?


100% custom.

http://images22.fotki.com/v518/photos/2/232908/896907/DSCF0109-vi.jpg?1172111502


http://images22.fotki.com/v519/photos/2/232908/896907/DSC_0442-vi.jpg?1171644668

http://images22.fotki.com/v519/photos/2/232908/896907/DSC_0459-vi.jpg?1171644713

[TighTT]

if i not misTAken that GT35R ? with a big a/r ?

No Sir! But it does have a fairly large (.82) A/R.

[TighTT]

Sorry, kinda hard to tell by a wide angle pic. 3071?

Here is a pic of the turbo:
http://images104.fotki.com/v463/photos/2/232908/896907/A46-vi.jpg?1084050717


Kidding!!!














Here is the real-deal:

http://images22.fotki.com/v754/photos/2/232908/896907/DSC_0579-vi.jpg?1174870782

[SeanF]

"ahniiiiiiice"

[AudiA4_20T]

3076r?

[pipe7284]

we dont know, just tell us!!!!!!

btw-did that turbo came with the black housing or you painted it and how and what did you use.

[AudiRacerS4]

3076r?? looks like a turbonetics turbo from that black housing.

[offroader1006]

my turbo could fit in your intake piping[eek]

[232power]

100% custom.

http://images22.fotki.com/v518/photos/2/232908/896907/DSCF0109-vi.jpg?1172111502



wow looks badass.. [up]

going for 500+hp?

[jrodmk2]

aesthetically very pleasing. i like how things work with each other. like the curve of the oil feed around the wastegate. very very very nice looking setup.

[solowb5]

well its got a 83 exhaust and a 70 a/r my gues a t76 or a t series but y use a wiggins clamp on the intake then further down it use coupler? just trying to make it look expensive? makes no sense to me y u would waste a couple hundred when u could be using the clamp where u really need it, on the actual i/c piping

[jrodmk2]

because it looks nice and he has the funds is my guess.

[lude2euroa4]

Ouch, that isn't saying much at all since Euro-Tuner isn't much of a "tuner" magazine.

if he didnt want to be in the mag then he wouldnt have been in it the FIRST time.

its a compliment to him...[up]

[Issam@INA]

can you kindly stop with the teasers?they are getting annoying...

Loving the build though and the wiggens clamp is baller!

[mike-2ptzero]

It is a turbonetics turbo with the anti surge housing.



LOL, he posted pics of it on AW.

[Don Supreme]

I don't know why he won't just spill the beans. He still hasn't told us the final dyno numbers... much less how the thing drives...

Forget how it looks. I want power information....

[kofoto]

now THAT is an exhaust manifold.

[TQMB5]

I don't know why he won't just spill the beans. He still hasn't told us the final dyno numbers... much less how the thing drives...

Forget how it looks. I want power information....

that would be because last time he said it wasnt tuned yet, that would be my guess but maybe things have changed

[Don Supreme]

That was a month ago.

[AudiRacerS4]

if everyone would be patient he would post...the full details and pics are over on AW already

[mike-2ptzero]

now THAT is an exhaust manifold.

LOL, like THAT is the first of it's kind [confused]

I think you are 4 years behind seeing that Full-race made the first one for my car in 2003.

[mike-2ptzero]

Here is the real-deal:

http://images22.fotki.com/v754/photos/2/232908/896907/DSC_0579-vi.jpg?1174870782

I guess you went with that clamp on the turbo inlet to keep them all the same type of clamps? Because it really isn't needed on the vacuum side. Unless you were going for the "show" aspect of it.

[solowb5]

y do u seem to bash every statement. 4 years or not its simply a nice manifold as stated. i love that ur full race states a 60hp gain from that manifold with no back up on our engine. so do u have the info that is 4 yrs old?

[Issam@INA]

y do u seem to bash every statement. 4 years or not its simply a nice manifold as stated. i love that ur full race states a 60hp gain from that manifold with no back up on our engine. so do u have the info that is 4 yrs old?

He doesnt.I honestly like when Mike posts because he keeps it raw.....its a copy of the full race unit.

[killa]

anyone figure out what turbo hes using yet? looks like a 4in inlet.


It's a Turbonetics GT-K, supposed to be another GT Killer, problem is that Garrett has way more money than Turbonetics, matter of fact Turbonetics used to be a Garrett distributor until a couple of years ago, then they were dropped just like Precision was dropped to a lower level not too long ago.

Setup looks clean [up]
Paul

[mike-2ptzero]

y do u seem to bash every statement. 4 years or not its simply a nice manifold as stated. i love that ur full race states a 60hp gain from that manifold with no back up on our engine. so do u have the info that is 4 yrs old?

They are making a statement of Tube vs log, the tube manifold is going to have a much higher flow rating vs the log manifolds out for the A4.


Doesn't matter what car it is on and Full-race has been doing manifolds for many years on Honda so I am sure they can show you all the data of Tube vs Log.

Show me 1 log manifold on a A4 that is making 500+whp.

[Don Supreme]

Mike you set the bar kind of high didn't you? I can't even count 5 a4's with 500 AWHP.

[mike-2ptzero]

Mike you set the bar kind of high didn't you? I can't even count 5 a4's with 500 AWHP.

Well someone has to keep raising the bar up dont they?[:D]

[kofoto]

LOL, like THAT is the first of it's kind [confused]

I think you are 4 years behind seeing that Full-race made the first one for my car in 2003.

dude. relax. take a valium or something. i was only commenting on the quality of the manifold. nowhere did i try to make any inference that it was in any way THE FIRST EVER really awesome manifold or that it was in any way better than yours... [rolleyes]

what i meant by that statement is that it was not only a great looking manifold, but also a very well designed manifold. i think a lot of folks overlook getting a good exhaust manifold and end up either not upgrading or getting the crappy ATP one.

if you want me to say lots of great things about your manifold, start your own damn thread.

[Kievskiy]

...^^^one ring...

[mike-2ptzero]

dude. relax. take a valium or something. i was only commenting on the quality of the manifold. nowhere did i try to make any inference that it was in any way THE FIRST EVER really awesome manifold or that it was in any way better than yours... [rolleyes]

what i meant by that statement is that it was not only a great looking manifold, but also a very well designed manifold. i think a lot of folks overlook getting a good exhaust manifold and end up either not upgrading or getting the crappy ATP one.

if you want me to say lots of great things about your manifold, start your own damn thread.


Then you should have just said that instead of screaming "THAT". That just implies that you are comparing it to ALL other manifolds not just the ATP log.


Now you are comparing apples to oranges. The people that "dont" upgrade their manifold are using a elim turbo made to fit on the stock manifold and people that have bought the ATP log manifold in the past did so because of cost or the fact that there were no other manifolds on the market at the time.


His is well designed manifold because it is a Full-race knock off.


BTW why would I need to start my own thread, I am a 4 ring member and have plenty of threads all you have to do is "search".

[jrodmk2]

^^^^^note the ANGLE of the wastegate-in ;)

[killa]

Show me 1 log manifold on a A4 that is making 500+whp.

Gavin

[goody6691]

adam, i still hate you



j/k that setup looks awesome. looks like i have to step my game up.

[TQMB5]

His is well designed manifold because it is a Full-race knock off.
threads all you have to do is "search".

[rolleyes] ok so 95% of custom mani's are "knock-offs"

[mike-2ptzero]

Gavin

Gavin has never posted dyno #'s of over 500whp.


Do you have any pics of the manifold gavin used on his car?

[mike-2ptzero]

[rolleyes] ok so 95% of custom mani's are "knock-offs"

"Custom" means it is 1 off. There are people that take someone elses design or actually copy it completely by making a jig of a manifold they bought, these would be knock offs not custom.

[TighTT]

"Custom" means it is 1 off. There are people that take someone elses design or actually copy it completely by making a jig of a manifold they bought, these would be knock offs not custom.

LOL...dont be a prick Mike. My manifold is 100% custom. I would never want a full race manifold, nor would I ever copy one. I assume what your saying is that full-race invented the tubular manifold? If so, they should be suing a ton of people.

[TighTT]

well its got a 83 exhaust and a 70 a/r my gues a t76 or a t series but y use a wiggins clamp on the intake then further down it use coupler? just trying to make it look expensive? makes no sense to me y u would waste a couple hundred when u could be using the clamp where u really need it, on the actual i/c piping

You are incorrect about the .83 and also incorrect about almost everything you just posted. The entire turbo system is using Wiggins clamps....these pics are not 100% up to date. This is exactly why I hate posting things like this on AZ...because people start ripping on things without knowing the full story. Im sure you are much smarter than me and your car is much better than mine. [headbang]

[superman_006]

I dont what nothing to do with this argument,
I thought I would just say, Sweet Ride[up] and bump the pic of the clean ass engine compartment again

http://images22.fotki.com/v761/photos/2/232908/4682394/DSC_0580-vi.jpg?1174870916


custom IM is now completed as well.

[onemoremile]

Don't get discouraged. The setup looks great.

[TighTT]

I dont what nothing to do with this argument,
I thought I would just say, Sweet Ride[up] and bump the pic of the clean ass engine compartment again


Thanks dude!

[TighTT]

Don't get discouraged. The setup looks great.

Thanks alot Bro. Im not getting discouraged...I just dont care for the haters. And Im DYING to drive my car!!! [drive]

[TighTT]

can you kindly stop with the teasers?they are getting annoying...

Loving the build though and the wiggens clamp is baller!

Im not with the car 100% of the time...the updates I give are when I take pics and have time to upload them. Im not doing it to kill you guys.

[TighTT]

I don't know why he won't just spill the beans. He still hasn't told us the final dyno numbers... much less how the thing drives...

Forget how it looks. I want power information....


Turbonetics GT-K 550.

Car is still not tuned and thus I have no power numbers nor can I say how it drives. I wanted to wait on telling you guys the turbo specs till we get some dyno numbers....but no more secrets.

[mike-2ptzero]

LOL...dont be a prick Mike. My manifold is 100% custom. I would never want a full race manifold, nor would I ever copy one. I assume what your saying is that full-race invented the tubular manifold? If so, they should be suing a ton of people.

Who ever said they "invented" the tube manifold? Just stating that your manifold looks "exactly" like the full race manifold since it also uses the same RAM design and even has the wastegate inlet in the exact same spot. But I guess that makes yours "custom" and if stating the facts makes me a prick then so be it.


Yours
http://images22.fotki.com/v519/photos/2/232908/896907/DSC_0442-vi.jpg?1171644668



Full-race
http://www.full-race.com/catalog_images/fullsize/audi_mani_01.jpg


If you cant see how much they are the same then I dont know what to say. But good luck with the show car.

[TighTT]

Who ever said they "invented" the tube manifold? Just stating that your manifold looks "exactly" like the full race manifold since it also uses the same RAM design and even has the wastegate inlet in the exact same spot. But I guess that makes yours "custom" and if stating the facts makes me a prick then so be it.


Yours
http://images22.fotki.com/v519/photos/2/232908/896907/DSC_0442-vi.jpg?1171644668



Full-race
http://www.full-race.com/catalog_images/fullsize/audi_mani_01.jpg


If you cant see how much they are the same then I dont know what to say. But good luck with the show car.


Hey dumb-dumb....that pic was taken with a fisheye lens...that doesnt accurately dipict the true angles of the manifold. This manifold was built around the GT-K turbo.....in order to be able to fit a full 4 inch intake with a 4 inch MAF. Get off your high horse...no one wants to copy your setup.[down]

[AudiA4_20T]

Honestly Mike you have some good insight but honestly that is dumb. First off the flange for the turbo is inside 2 of the runners on his and on the full-race its on the outside of all of them, and 2ndly, where is the WG flange on the full-race?

EDIT: actually it couldnt be in the same place or it would hit your frame

[mike-2ptzero]

Hey dumb-dumb....that pic was taken with a fisheye lens...that doesnt accurately dipict the true angles of the manifold. This manifold was built around the GT-K turbo.....in order to be able to fit a full 4 inch intake with a 4 inch MAF. Get off your high horse...no one wants to copy your setup.[down]

Yes because my GT35r doesn't have a 4" inlet.[confused]


AudiA4_18T - how do you get the turbo flange isn't in the same spot? The 2 outside runners loop under the 2 inside runners and all come up under the flange putting the turbo on top on both manifolds.

How would it hit the frame?

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2716034efi_008.jpg

[EUROTEK//S4]

HOLY SHIT !!! [eek] thats a nice setup!!!!![hail] [up]


What are the specs on your motor ? tuning ?

[TighTT]

Yes because my GT35r doesn't have a 4" inlet.[confused]


AudiA4_18T - how do you get the turbo flange isn't in the same spot? The 2 outside runners loop under the 2 inside runners and all come up under the flange putting the turbo on top on both manifolds.

How would it hit the frame?

Key words: full 4 inch intake with a 4 inch MAF...not 4 inch inlet. If your car had a 4 inch intake (not inlet, which we know it does) it would smack right into your headlight housing. [headbang]

[TighTT]

HOLY SHIT !!! [eek] thats a nice setup!!!!![hail] [up]


What are the specs on your motor ? tuning ?

Built motor...custom tuning in progress.

[A4 Sparks]

NICE ASS BUILD !!!! i got to see this sometime since im only a town away, lol also thinking about what you said about build my car in sets and do some more reading. still want to go BT in the winter tho lol

[mike-2ptzero]

Key words: full 4 inch intake with a 4 inch MAF...not 4 inch inlet. If your car had a 4 inch intake (not inlet, which we know it does) it would smack right into your headlight housing. [headbang]

Thats odd because I was running a 4" cobra tube with a 4" pipe that went down to a 3.5" maf housing. I actually just sold that old setup to Tony since I no longer needed it once I went stand along.

Ran that setup from 2003 till the end of 2005.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2716coolant_lines.jpg

[20vpower]

id hit it....
and mike needs to work for cingular or something with his damn bar he keeps raising

[sean1.8t]

You are incorrect about the .83 and also incorrect about almost everything you just posted. The entire turbo system is using Wiggins clamps....these pics are not 100% up to date. This is exactly why I hate posting things like this on AZ...because people start ripping on things without knowing the full story. Im sure you are much smarter than me and your car is much better than mine. [headbang]

isn't this why it's a "Teaser"? *hint* your thread title..

just wanted to show you that you're simply making yourself mad by taking all of this personally when you somewhat provoke it..

all in all your car looks sick, and i like the idea of someone experimenting with a different turbo for a change. [up]

and P.S. your manifold is a copy of the full-race. but it doesn't mean that you should be angry by that fact, their manifold is well tested and proven. i would rather have it that way. and to all that wouldn't understand. you can still say it's "100% custom" for the wow factor

[TighTT]

Thats odd because I was running a 4" cobra tube with a 4" pipe that went down to a 3.5" maf housing. I actually just sold that old setup to Tony since I no longer needed it once I went stand along.

Ran that setup from 2003 till the end of 2005.

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/2716coolant_lines.jpg

A cobra tube is alot different than my intake setup. Mine is a smooth bend, unlike the cobra....which I have read terrible things about.

[TighTT]

and P.S. your manifold is a copy of the full-race.


Sigh. You and Mike can think what you like. And PS....no one is angry.

[sean1.8t]

.....its a copy of the full race unit.

well he also thinks the same. and out of the 5 people that i actually listen to and agree with on this forum. he is one of the ones on top

[EUROTEK//S4]

What is your WHP /WTQ goal ?

[iwasawesome]

This = why i stick on AW...i have to agree with Tightt on this..
people talk a sh!tload on something they know nothing about.
Mike + Adam both know their shit..
that is what it comes down to. Let them battle it out and everyone else can sit by and chime in when the arguments don't jive. For the most part.. both have sick ass cars ... both have done something absolutley amazing with these motors (although adam doesn't have the nums+graphs+vids to prove it yet (i expect those to come)).

All the best to both of you guys and i'll catch you on AW :)

[mike-2ptzero]

A cobra tube is alot different than my intake setup. Mine is a smooth bend, unlike the cobra....which I have read terrible things about.

True, but I was able to make 434whp at 24psi with the cobra tube so it couldn't have been too bad at that boost pressure.


Yes I think your intake tube is better and looks great, but it seems it made the down pipe bend worse for exhaust flow since you had to push the turbo back a little to make the 4" inlet pipe fit. So basicly it became a give and take for the 2.

[A4ringedONE8T]

http://images22.fotki.com/v761/photos/2/232908/4682394/DSC_0580-vi.jpg?1174870916


Who makes that SS heat shield that covers the coilpacks?

[AudiRacerS4]

i know 034 makes one

[sean1.8t]

Who makes that SS heat shield that covers the coilpacks?

034 does. it's quite inexpensive too

[mike-2ptzero]

i know 034 makes one

Looks to be the one 034 sells.

[k0mpresd]

im running a cobra tube w/ my 3076r

i dont see it as being a restriction

your set up does look really clean though [up]

[gavin18t]

Gavin has never posted dyno #'s of over 500whp.

Correct and I never will!


Do you have any pics of the manifold gavin used on his car?


FYI, I'm currently running the ATP manifold

[TighTT]

im running a cobra tube w/ my 3076r

i dont see it as being a restriction

your set up does look really clean though [up]

Thanks man. I have never used a cobra personally...just read about them.

[TighTT]

True, but I was able to make 434whp at 24psi with the cobra tube so it couldn't have been too bad at that boost pressure.


Yes I think your intake tube is better and looks great, but it seems it made the down pipe bend worse for exhaust flow since you had to push the turbo back a little to make the 4" inlet pipe fit. So basicly it became a give and take for the 2.

This whole thing has gotten out of wack. If you want to think my manifold is a knock-off..thats fine. I wish you luck with your car. Maybe some day we'll meet in person and you can checkout my ride IRL.

[TighTT]

Looks to be the one 034 sells.

It is.

[mike-2ptzero]

FYI, I'm currently running the ATP manifold

Post up some picks when you get a chance gavin.

[AudiA4_20T]

Gavin your car is sick man I wish youd post up more info

[mike-2ptzero]

This whole thing has gotten out of wack. If you want to think my manifold is a knock-off..thats fine. I wish you luck with your car. Maybe some day we'll meet in person and you can checkout my ride IRL.

Do you plan on racing either of your cars at Waterfest?

[TighTT]

Do you plan on racing either of your cars at Waterfest?

No..but both cars will be there. Oh...the folks who build the whole turbo kit (manifold included) will be there as well if you wish to pick their brains about the car.

Who knows...maybe I'll run the A4. As I said in the past...both cars are built to make me smile...not to impress anyone performance or looks wise...just to make me happy.

[kofoto]

Then you should have just said that instead of screaming "THAT". That just implies that you are comparing it to ALL other manifolds not just the ATP log.

are you serious?? because i put emphasis on THAT, you think i was comparing it to every other exhaust manifold ever made for the A4? seriously??

...again... relax... what i was comparing it to is the majority of manifolds out there. are 90% of the manifolds being used by a4 enthusiasts as good as that one? i highly, highly doubt it. so how about we not be so testy. cool?


BTW why would I need to start my own thread, I am a 4 ring member and have plenty of threads all you have to do is "search".

why should i care that you're a 4 ring member (especially when you act like this)? you're the one that brought up your own manifold being somehow better than TighTT's manifold in this thread. i don't care what manifold you have, but you felt it necessary to bring it up. [confused] i guess maybe i should think twice next time i choose to compliment someone on their hardware. my bad...

[CaSp3r9]

Hahaha holy shit! Some of you guys bitch way too much on here and honestly it's really annoying. I love these forums so there's no way in hell I'm leaving but all of the arguing over things that really don't matter is so unnecessary and does nothing but cause problems and piss people off.

TighTT - Awesome pics, very nice setup!
You guys need to understand that (if I'm not mistaken) TighTT doesn't care if his manifold may look similar to the full-race one. His is custom manifold is very impressive and he was nice enough to share it with us. Plain and simple.

Mike - I'm not bashing you by any means, I have a lot of respect for you, but you don't have to attack TighTT by calling him out and suggesting that his manifold isn't custom because he supposedly copied the full-race manifold. Yeah the two manifolds look similar, but who cares? Is it really that big of a deal? You make good points in everything you write, but you don't have to accuse people of copying others or stealing ideas or whatever it may be.

Bottom line: Think what you want, give your input/opinion, etc. But please be respectful of others in what you say! All bashing others does is ruin AZ's already diminishing reputation.

Am I standing by myself on this one or does this make sense to you guys? [az]

[gavin18t]

Gavin your car is sick man I wish youd post up more info


Thank you, Maybe one day ill post it all up.

[CaSp3r9]

Thank you, Maybe one day ill post it all up.

Yeah man, you need to come out of your cave and show us your car! I'm in love with it haha [up]

[sean1.8t]

Thank you, Maybe one day ill post it all up.

AHahahahahaha!!!! that makes me laugh

[mike-2ptzero]

are you serious?? because i put emphasis on THAT, you think i was comparing it to every other exhaust manifold ever made for the A4? seriously??

...again... relax... what i was comparing it to is the majority of manifolds out there. are 90% of the manifolds being used by a4 enthusiasts as good as that one? i highly, highly doubt it. so how about we not be so testy. cool?



why should i care that you're a 4 ring member (especially when you act like this)? you're the one that brought up your own manifold being somehow better than TighTT's manifold in this thread. i don't care what manifold you have, but you felt it necessary to bring it up. [confused] i guess maybe i should think twice next time i choose to compliment someone on their hardware. my bad...

Again telling me to relax. Believe me I am very relaxed, if I wasn't I am sure you would know about it by now.


CaSp3r9 - All I did was say it had pretty much the same exact design. The comment I made about making copies of the full-race manifold has to do with someone else that actually sold exact knock off's of the real full-race manifold after being one of their dealers. That person also just ripped off another manifold design from someone else for the A4 and called it his own. Those are the people we dont want around since they take credit for something they did not put the time in to design.

[mike-2ptzero]

Thank you, Maybe one day ill post it all up.

I dont think anyone is going to hold their breath on that one.[;)]

[CaSp3r9]

CaSp3r9 - All I did was say it had pretty much the same exact design. The comment I made about making copies of the full-race manifold has to do with someone else that actually sold exact knock off's of the real full-race manifold after being one of their dealers. That person also just ripped off another manifold design from someone else for the A4 and called it his own. Those are the people we dont want around since they take credit for something they did not put the time in to design.

I realize that but in reading through posts, it just seemed like you were accusing TighTT of copying the full-race manifold and calling it his own original idea. Sure it looks similar, but I don't recall him claiming the design as his original idea or implying mass producing his manifold.
This isn't aimed at you but some of the stuff others said came off as rude (at least to me) and it's really not necessary, all it does is piss people off. I know I'm kind of beating this into the ground but someone has to due to the lack of respect some of us have for others.

[lude2euroa4]

Again telling me to relax. Believe me I am very relaxed

seriously quit yelling [cool]

ive met adam and seen his rides in person, he is the kind of guy who likes to be original and start new trends... im pretty sure his wallet doesnt buy knock offs

[dubaudi]

His is well designed manifold because it is a Full-race knock off.



I guess I'm gonna chime in here, since I know the person BUILDING this car very well, and have witnessed the entire build from day one. For starters mike-2ptwhateveryournameis, the manifold is NOT a knock-off of anyone else's manifold. The shop that is building this car is very low-key and as a matter of fact, this is the first and only 1.8t build they are doing, and they have absolutely no intentions of doing it again. In fact, the owner of the shop will flat out tell you that this is the only one they intend to build. They're primary focus is custom VR6 turbo kits, and also several one-off R32 turbo builds they have going on. Another point is that they do not resell any parts. Parts are built ON the cars. So if that's the case, what sense would it make to go through the trouble of building a knock-off Full Race manifold for this one build?? [rolleyes] By your logic, why wouldn't they have just installed the one they bought to "copy" onto his car???

The reason it looks similiar is because there's only so many ways to build an equal-length tubular manifold for a top-mounted turbo on this motor. Of course they're going to look similar, but I can assure you, they are not. For starters, look at the angle of your turbo vs Adam's. If they were going to copy, they wouldn't change anything as that would defeat the purpose of copying in the first place, wouldn't it? Stop being such a fan-boy, not everyone gives a crap who you or Full Race is.

How about getting over yourself for just a few minutes and giving credit where credit is due. The guy who built this manifold prides himself on his skills in fabrication, and you accusing him of copying is both insulting and incorrect.

Don't you have a 1/4 mile thread to go pounce on?

[az]

[mike-2ptzero]

I guess I'm gonna chime in here, since I know the person BUILDING this car very well, and have witnessed the entire build from day one. For starters mike-2ptwhateveryournameis, the manifold is NOT a knock-off of anyone else's manifold. The shop that is building this car is very low-key and as a matter of fact, this is the first and only 1.8t build they are doing, and they have absolutely no intentions of doing it again. In fact, the owner of the shop will flat out tell you that this is the only one they intend to build. They're primary focus is custom VR6 turbo kits, and also several one-off R32 turbo builds they have going on. Another point is that they do not resell any parts. Parts are built ON the cars. So if that's the case, what sense would it make to go through the trouble of building a knock-off Full Race manifold for this one build?? [rolleyes] By your logic, why wouldn't they have just installed the one they bought to "copy" onto his car???

The reason it looks similiar is because there's only so many ways to build an equal-length tubular manifold for a top-mounted turbo on this motor. Of course they're going to look similar, but I can assure you, they are not. For starters, look at the angle of your turbo vs Adam's. If they were going to copy, they wouldn't change anything as that would defeat the purpose of copying in the first place, wouldn't it? Stop being such a fan-boy, not everyone gives a crap who you or Full Race is.

How about getting over yourself for just a few minutes and giving credit where credit is due. The guy who built this manifold prides himself on his skills in fabrication, and you accusing him of copying is both insulting and incorrect.

Don't you have a 1/4 mile thread to go pounce on?

[az]


Ok so it is not a "knock off" but I was just pointing out how close it is to the full-race manifold, including how the wg inlet comes out of the manifold in the exact same way. They are not 100% the same because his turbo is pointing straighter and closer to the engine.

Dont worry I do give credit where it is due, but that is usually when someone actually comes up with something that has never been done before.


Sorry but this is a forum with opinions not a ASS kissing site, thats what Audiworld is for.

[dubaudi]

Ok so it is not a "knock off" but I was just pointing out how close it is to the full-race manifold, including how the wg inlet comes out of the manifold in the exact same way. They are not 100% the same because his turbo is pointing straighter and closer to the engine.

Dont worry I do give credit where it is due, but that is usually when someone actually comes up with something that has never been done before.


Sorry but this is a forum with opinions not a ASS kissing site, thats what Audiworld is for.

You're right, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when you come into someone else's post with your guns blazing, calling someone else's hard work a knock off, then you better damn well be prepared to hear some opinions other than your own, especially when the builders themselves aren't here to defent themselves, nor do they care to be. And at least be open minded enough to listen to them.

And if you look a little more closely at the two manifolds you'll see that the WG on Adam's comes out straight up and down, where yours comes off at more of a horizontal angle.

The bottom line is that I am close friends with the guys who are building Adam's car, and they are the nicest, most down to earth guys you'll ever meet. They don't come on the forums, they don't look for bragging rights, and they aren't trying to be the world's best 1.8t builders. They're simply a couple guys who LOVE building sick turbocharged cars...that's it.

Oh, and just so can have some more info to sink your teeth into, Adam's car will also be tuned 100% on the stock ECU WITH a 4 inch MAF. [cool]

[pressure]

ITT: arguing for... umm... *shrug*

Here's two genuine enthusiasts, both working to the same goal - satisfaction - albeit taking different paths, whether polar opposite or similar. Isn't that what modding is all about? Personal styles, whether it's actual 'styling' asthetics or a 'style' of gaining performance, is what being an automotive enthusiast is all about. If everyone did it the "right" way or "my way" 'cause it's the "best" way, there'd be one example... in one color... repeated 1000s of times. That'd make for some boring event coverage.

I've been on AZ & AW for years, but just began posting here. I've followed many a thread w/ you - 2ptzero - providing your valuable insight... & you've provided a few answers to my questions over the years, too. For that, a proper thanx & a nod. As w/ most every dedicated Audi/VW nut, I have the utmost respect for your passion, knowledge, & execution... but, damn, why be such a dick?

I surely aren't taking you to school & teaching you a thing here, but FWIW, there isn't a whole lotta' ways to squeeze a proper tubular manifold in our chassis & when you have to fit a seriously big turbo on it, the design options narrow to what we see here, regardless of who actually created it. Sure, a runner might be slightly shorter/longer & a flange might be forward/back a tad one way or another, & the wastegate outlet ever so different, but unless they're side-by-side, most two would look similar. Basically, no matter what, it'll look nearly identical. Just 'cause it looks similar, doesn't mean it is, or a copy thereof. I'd like to think that a fellow enthusiast w/ all your experience would take an owner's word & let it be.

Whatever. End rant. Carry on w/ your serious messageboarding.

[Eurotuned_A4]

good work on the car! it has been in the works for some time now. at elast you have your TT to enjoy while your A4 is down.




Oh, and just so can have some more info to sink your teeth into, Adam's car will also be tuned 100% on the stock ECU WITH a 4 inch MAF. [cool]

who will be doing the tuning? tapp....custom....

[TighTT]

good work on the car! it has been in the works for some time now. at elast you have your TT to enjoy while your A4 is down.




who will be doing the tuning? tapp....custom....


Thanks Boss.

Tuning will be custom.....or maybe just a full-race knock-off. [rolleyes]

[BJC]

this shit is retarded.

[quattroanillos5]

TighTT..... are the guy in EuroTuner who had a feature done on his TT with GruppeM intake and the big turbo A4? If it's you they are very sweet rides!

[dubaudi]

who will be doing the tuning? tapp....custom....

The tuning is going to be 100% custom. It will be done by someone affiliated with the shop who has a lot of experience tuning turbocharged and supercharged VR6 motors. Since the ECU's are essentially the same, this one should be no problem for him, it'll probably just take slightly longer since it'll be his first 1.8t. The gray widebody Jetta you see in the background of one of Adam's pics was tuned by him.

I'm sorry to be withholding names and being sort of mysterious about it, but like I said, these guys are very low-key and so humble that they don't really want their names blown up on the forums or anything like that. I personally think they are crazy and that they should get an enormous amount of public recognition for the quality and innovation of work they do, however, I have to respect their wishes to stay unnamed.

I will tell you this though, they will be at Waterfest and they will be available to answer any and all questions about this build, any others they'll have with them there, the manifold, the turbo, the tuning, their favorite food....anything you want to know. [up]

[Gundem]

Figure out? Mike and anyone else here with half a brain has known for sometime.

i just love these smart ass comments. you def. deserve an applause.

[onemoremile]

ITT: arguing for... umm... *shrug*

I've been on AZ & AW for years, but just began posting here. I've followed many a thread w/ you - 2ptzero - providing your valuable insight... & you've provided a few answers to my questions over the years, too. For that, a proper thanx & a nod. As w/ most every dedicated Audi/VW nut, I have the utmost respect for your passion, knowledge, & execution... but, damn, why be such a dick?

I surely aren't taking you to school & teaching you a thing here, but FWIW, there isn't a whole lotta' ways to squeeze a proper tubular manifold in our chassis & when you have to fit a seriously big turbo on it, the design options narrow to what we see here, regardless of who actually created it. Sure, a runner might be slightly shorter/longer & a flange might be forward/back a tad one way or another, & the wastegate outlet ever so different, but unless they're side-by-side, most two would look similar. Basically, no matter what, it'll look nearly identical. Just 'cause it looks similar, doesn't mean it is, or a copy thereof. I'd like to think that a fellow enthusiast w/ all your experience would take an owner's word & let it be.

Whatever. End rant. Carry on w/ your serious messageboarding.

Well said. It would be very difficult to make 10 tubular manifolds with external wastegates and have them look different. There just aren't enough places to move things around to make them different. They look the same because they were built around the same set of goals. They have to be similar to even fit the car.

[TighTT]

[headbang]
i just love these smart ass comments. you def. deserve an applause.

Sorry Dad.


I posted pics of the damn turbo....if you cant figure it out from that...well...nevermind. [headbang]

[onemoremile]

i just love these smart ass comments. you def. deserve an applause.

look it up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrite

[EuroA4]

Everyone's got there opinions, so just let it end.

Good luck to the DubAudi guys...these guys are all down to earth and just love making sick cars...every year they are stepping up their level of skill and creativity.
I'm really excited to see some of the other project cars being worked on in the group...JJ's RS4 conversion is being documented on Fourtitude currently FYI.

[Stonediggs 1.8]

JJ's RS4 conversion is being documented on Fourtitude currently FYI.

Do you have a link for the lazy/fourtitude inept?

[dubaudi]

Do you have a link for the lazy/fourtitude inept?

http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publish/Features/article_3014.shtml

[solowb5]

i love how mike2.0 said aw is only full of asskissers when theres plenty kissing ur ass here. i cant really tell completly from the full-race but it seems tighttt has a longer merge collector which id rather have over the shorter full-race. no doubt mike ur car is well built but i woulda expected 10's from u along time ago. tapp did and they have a bosch ecu! not some 3k EM setup. ya their engine didnt last long but how many times have u rebuilt urs? just figured id ask that before u pointed that one out

[onemoremile]

Well, none of the Audi manifolds I've seen have one this nice. [eek]
http://www.burnsstainless.com/MergeCollectors/cutaway_big.gif

[solowb5]

lol

[superman_006]

^^^^^
that looks like the lower part for a V-8 header, from one of the make you own mani kits, where the tubes come together

[onemoremile]

<gets soapbox out>

If you guys want to argue about something then make it productive.

Whether you're arguing manifold design or turbo selection or who did what first start a thread in the chatterbox or tech forums. Toss it out there for everyone in the community to chew on without polluting threads that are otherwise good. All of the good info gets tossed into the middle of other threads and the ensuing debate kills the whole thing. Since the info was off topic nobody will be able to find it by a thread title. Everything has it's place. Threadjacking sucks.

<puts soapbox away>

[superman_006]

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p276/superman_006/t3t42L.jpg

[onemoremile]

^^ That is very nice.

[mike-2ptzero]

i love how mike2.0 said aw is only full of asskissers when theres plenty kissing ur ass here. i cant really tell completly from the full-race but it seems tighttt has a longer merge collector which id rather have over the shorter full-race. no doubt mike ur car is well built but i woulda expected 10's from u along time ago. tapp did and they have a bosch ecu! not some 3k EM setup. ya their engine didnt last long but how many times have u rebuilt urs? just figured id ask that before u pointed that one out

How do you expect 10's from my car when I run at a track that sits at nearly 3k feet and was running it there during the summer days in 100+ deg temps. Sorry but I live in the southwest not in the north east where temps are 50 degs at sea level. The only time I ran at sea level was during a few quick test runs at SAC the day I picked up my car from 034, that track is 8 hrs from my house so it isn't like I am going to go run up there for 1 day of racing with my car. At LACR it ran 11.8-11.9 in 100deg temps with a 5k adjusted alt, huge difference because the car is going to make less power at 5k then it would at sea level. My IAT's started at 40c and ended at 70c during my 11.8-11.9 runs.

My engine is on its 2nd rebuild, but this is because the crank had to be replaced with a new one since the knife edged ABA crank was flexing and the first build was not balanced. It isn't like I blew anything up, parts just did not work out right like they thought it would and things wear out quickly when making 500whp. Launching the car at full power also puts more stress/wear on the thrust bearings so they need to be replaced more often.

[TighTT]

How do you expect 10's from my car when I run at a track that sits at nearly 3k feet and was running it there during the summer days in 100+ deg temps. Sorry but I live in the southwest not in the north east where temps are 50 degs at sea level. The only time I ran at sea level was during a few quick test runs at SAC the day I picked up my car from 034, that track is 8 hrs from my house so it isn't like I am going to go run up there for 1 day of racing with my car. At LACR it ran 11.8-11.9 in 100deg temps with a 5k adjusted alt, huge difference because the car is going to make less power at 5k then it would at sea level. My IAT's started at 40c and ended at 70c during my 11.8-11.9 runs.

My engine is on its 2nd rebuild, but this is because the crank had to be replaced with a new one since the knife edged ABA crank was flexing and the first build was not balanced. It isn't like I blew anything up, parts just did not work out right like they thought it would and things wear out quickly when making 500whp. Launching the car at full power also puts more stress/wear on the thrust bearings so they need to be replaced more often.


Are you going to come to/run at Waterfest this year? If so, I would love to see your car and see you race it. [up]

[mike-2ptzero]

Are you going to come to/run at Waterfest this year? If so, I would love to see your car and see you race it. [up]

Most likely not since 034 isn't going this year and it is to short of time between waterfest and waterwagens here on the west coast.


onemoremile - that is a slip fit collector, mainly used for full length headers or on a dragster.

[onemoremile]

That is from burns stainless. They also do turbo slip and double slip collectors. I was talking more about quality. Burns is seriously good stuff.

[mike-2ptzero]

That is from burns stainless. They also do turbo slip and double slip collectors. I was talking more about quality. Burns is seriously good stuff.

I know who they are since they are right here in Socal. Back when DRS was looking to do a manifold for my car they talked to the people at Burns. Yes they make nice things but only if you feel like paying some very high prices, if you think $1300 is high you might end up chocking on the cost from burns. Just have to understand that they tend to do 1 off pieces for SEMA type cars. Burns prices on their SS is also high for the same exact product you can buy from other people.

[nizmosx]

i may be running a burns muffler on my car soon. and yes they are high dollar =X

[mike-2ptzero]

i may be running a burns muffler on my car soon. and yes they are high dollar =X

one of the "race" mufflers?

[lude2euroa4]

did someone say sealevel?

not again...

[jrodmk2]

^^^^^that is what i was thinking earlier :)

[mike-2ptzero]

did someone say sealevel?

not again...

Dont worry I wouldn't expect you to understand seeing that you are in NJ. Maybe you guys think the world is "FLAT".[confused] [;)]

[solowb5]

so ottawa is flat huh?

[TighTT]

Dont worry I wouldn't expect you to understand seeing that you are in NJ. Maybe you guys think the world is "FLAT".[confused] [;)]

Wow...you read Thomas L. Friedman too?? Great book for those who havent read it yet!


http://www.businessinnovationinsider.com/images/2006/03/The&#37;20World%20is%20Flat.jpg

My vote is that you come to NJ...show us what a real drag-driver does...and get your car into the 10's.

[onemoremile]

^^ Got that one on the shelf. Definitely worth recommending.

[mike-2ptzero]

so ottawa is flat huh?

I dont know is it?

But you do understand that Luskville Dragway(where TAPP Auto ran and advertises) is 200ft elevation? Then add in the air temps on top of that. But yet people try to compare that to a track at 2710 ft elevation with 100 deg temps. Yeah I dont think that is going to even work. There is another A4 that also runs at that same track, but I guess his quicker times have nothing to do with the track or conditions to make his (correction) GT28rs run 12.4 at 109.

[TQMB5]

Wow...you read Thomas L. Friedman too?? Great book for those who havent read it yet!


http://www.businessinnovationinsider.com/images/2006/03/The%20World%20is%20Flat.jpg

My vote is that you come to NJ...show us what a real drag-driver does...and get your car into the 10's.

damn you you beat me to it, very good book too

[solowb5]

since ur so into drag racing y havent u gone a lower elevation track?

[mike-2ptzero]

since ur so into drag racing y havent u gone a lower elevation track?

LACR is the only track here open every week/weekend. I used to run at carlsbad but that closed a few years ago and Fontana just built a new track but is only open 1 time a month for street legals, plus it is at 1400 ft. We also have Pomona but the only event I can run there is NHRA sport compact which is 1 time a year. Sac is close to sea level but is an 8 hr drive and they dont prep the track worth a shit for test and tune.

[solowb5]

with all the cars in cali id think theyd have tracks open more than that. wow then y not drive somewhere on a more level ground that is open often? that was my main question

[mike-2ptzero]

with all the cars in cali id think theyd have tracks open more than that. wow then y not drive somewhere on a more level ground that is open often? that was my main question

Because I would have to haul my car 16 hrs to make a few runs. What is messed up is we used to have the most tracks here, but 1 by 1 they close them down. LACR is closing later this year and Pomona has no street legal racing at all since it can only be used 15 days a year and all of that is for NHRA events.


So you expect me to drive 8 hrs each way to just hit a track that is close to sea level to then find out it is rained out? That is a issue with Sac most of the year. Till this year my car was driven to the tracks and I wasn't up to putting 1000 miles each time just to run at Sac, thats just too many miles and time on a built race motor.

[Gundem]

[headbang]

Sorry Dad.


I posted pics of the damn turbo....if you cant figure it out from that...well...nevermind. [headbang]
i know what it is...but that guy might be new to turbos or some...you don't have to put it in his face.

[nizmosx]

one of the "race" mufflers?

yep =). got something big up my sleeves goin on. you guys will see in time....

[goody6691]

i think adam is getting a little tired of the hate. he turned his "beeter" into one hell of a nice car. ive seen his car for a while now and it has come a long way. its hard trying to be different esp with a b5. at least he is letting us know what he is doing to the car. if it turns out half as nice as his tt it will be an amazing car.

[goody6691]

oooooooo..............i want a burns race muffler too

[nizmosx]

Because I would have to haul my car 16 hrs to make a few runs. What is messed up is we used to have the most tracks here, but 1 by 1 they close them down. LACR is closing later this year and Pomona has no street legal racing at all since it can only be used 15 days a year and all of that is for NHRA events.


So you expect me to drive 8 hrs each way to just hit a track that is close to sea level to then find out it is rained out? That is a issue with Sac most of the year. Till this year my car was driven to the tracks and I wasn't up to putting 1000 miles each time just to run at Sac, thats just too many miles and time on a built race motor.

mike it may be worth it to make the trip happen just 1 time, so you can get a good comparison to show the difference a track can make. Plan a trip with the lady and the kid take one of those days from the trip and hit up a track. then run at a local track here with the same setup. compare times.

[mike-2ptzero]

mike it may be worth it to make the trip happen just 1 time, so you can get a good comparison to show the difference a track can make. Plan a trip with the lady and the kid take one of those days from the trip and hit up a track. then run at a local track here with the same setup. compare times.


and you expect me to come up with the $4k to make a run to NJ and back just to hit the track?

You expect your car to be street legal with that burns muffler?

[A4 Sparks]

i would like to hear more about this " burns muffler " anyone got one on there car ? also pic ?

[mike-2ptzero]

i would like to hear more about this " burns muffler " anyone got one on there car ? also pic ?

http://www.burnsstainless.com/UltraliteMuffler/SSmuf-5.gif


As you can see the muffler really doesn't do much.

[A4 Sparks]

i just looked up that muffler and i have to say i like it...anyone have one and sound clips ?

[mike-2ptzero]

i just looked up that muffler and i have to say i like it...anyone have one and sound clips ?

I bet the cops will like it too since it will increase their ticket writings.[:p]

[Issam@INA]

But one thing I will bet is your pockets will not like it....
A full burns exhaust system will net you $4K easy....trust me I know.

[goody6691]

the burns muffler cant be much louder than my buddys mkIV gti with a full 3in with a straight pipe and no cats. i like a louder exhaust

[mike-2ptzero]

the burns muffler cant be much louder than my buddys mkIV gti with a full 3in with a straight pipe and no cats. i like a louder exhaust

True, but then why would you even want to drive on the street with that setup. I bet his 3" straight pipe isn't as loud as my "nothing but a down pipe" exhaust.[:p]

[goody6691]

true, but i have an open dump tube on my external and it scare people on the highway. i just think a louder exhaust is a bit more fun. and his mkIV sounds awesome

[TighTT]

i know what it is...but that guy might be new to turbos or some...you don't have to put it in his face.

Do you ever have something worth-while to say....or do you just come into peoples conversations in order to make yourself feel better??

[SilverK04]

I have that exact muffler on my new setup. 3 inch all the way back to just one of those all v-banded nice nice......its loud for sure but sounds damn good. I will try to get some sound clips.

[A4 Sparks]

that exhaust setup sounds sweet...get some sound clips as soon as you can i want to hear that thing....sorry for the thread jack

[Don Supreme]

true, but i have an open dump tube on my external and it scare people on the highway. i just think a louder exhaust is a bit more fun. and his mkIV sounds awesome

I don't know why people say that about dump tubes. My dump tube is open (atmosphere) right now and I can barely hear it over my exhaust @ 5000 RPM+ which is when its starts dumping.

[mike-2ptzero]

I don't know why people say that about dump tubes. My dump tube is open (atmosphere) right now and I can barely hear it over my exhaust @ 5000 RPM+ which is when its starts dumping.

Same here. It tends to be louder when running lower boost levels since the WG is open more at that point and at very high rpms. Huge difference between a open WG dump and running a open exhaust.

[nizmosx]

i will be running two magnaflow resonators (stamped as fast intentions) as well as a burns muffler. yes it will be loud but not that bad. im planning to get a daily driver so my audi wont be the dd anymore.

here is a link to something similar to what im doing however i have no need for the dual setup. it will be single.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127570&highlight=fast+intentions

and mike....
dont look at it as 4k to go run your car. think of it as a family vacation. and a piece of mind.

[mike-2ptzero]

i will be running two magnaflow resonators (stamped as fast intentions) as well as a burns muffler. yes it will be loud but not that bad. im planning to get a daily driver so my audi wont be the dd anymore.

here is a link to something similar to what im doing however i have no need for the dual setup. it will be single.

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=127570&highlight=fast+intentions

and mike....
dont look at it as 4k to go run your car. think of it as a family vacation. and a piece of mind.

Nice setup, good to see Austin doing some things with his car. I wonder if he will be taking it up to the "german invasion".


I might end up doing a burns race muffler later this year since I have to run a muffler for the IDRC "street tune" class and it would drop a few lbs from the car.


Dont really see going to NJ as a "vacation". [:p]

Maybe going to Waterwagens since we have family up in Seattle, but for me another cruise would do.

[onemoremile]

As long as we're on the subject, another great muffler is the AeroTurbine. It actually makes power over a straight pipe.

[goody6691]

my roommate works for verocious motorsports. they bought his old shop in pa and they are moving to de in a few weeks. maybe ill have him build me an exhaust with there mufflers[aerotubine] nothing like being a little different

[nizmosx]

As long as we're on the subject, another great muffler is the AeroTurbine. It actually makes power over a straight pipe.

Aeroturbine makes great mufflers, a true quality peice. If i recall you were planning on doing a custom setup utilizing their components. any updates on that?

[onemoremile]

I was planning on doing it later in the summer. I want to run a G-Tech Pro RR around Gingerman with various setups. The old plan was to install the 2871r and then a custom 3" turbo back with HFC and Aero's fancy parts. I think I'll just swap the resonator and exhaust from my Neuspeed G2 with Aero parts and see what happens. It will probably still be a couple months. Real life keeps getting in the way.