How Difficult Is It to Install S4 Bi-Xenon Ecodes?

[SP]

Purchasing a S4 Ecode Bi-Xenon Kit and was wondering if these were Plug-n-Play. How difficult is the installation and was wondering if anyone had DIY on it. Any install or operation issues (i.e. autoleveling and such)?

TIA,
Oenophile

[Saturnine]

Its all plug and play.. Its a really tight fit on the passenger side thou, since the wiring harness *barely* has enough slack in it..

[SP]

How mcu did you pay for it and where did you get it I might ask? The place that I am looking to get is going to charge me $1000 for Valeo PnP unit. Does this sound right?

[Saturnine]

1000 bucks??? sheesh.. I bought mine from Ebay for 600 shipped from Germany.

[SAlNlDllvllAlNl]

I think he's taking about $1000 including ballasts and what not. At least I hope thats what he's talking about or else a $1000 is wayyyy to much.

[BrokenXenon]

OWNED

[neoprufrok]

Originally posted by SAlNlDllvllAlNl
I think he's taking about $1000 including ballasts and what not. At least I hope thats what he's talking about or else a $1000 is wayyyy to much.

The s4 bixenon's all should come with ballasts and bulbs. The ones that Saturnine got has ballasts and bulbs included.

[DolphinV8]

really? well, I paid $710 shipped from germany. (came with D2S xenonx)

[Saturnine]

Damn, how did you get D2S blubs??? I wish mine had come with those, there are waaaaay more bulb choices for D2S..

[:D]

[DolphinV8]

hun? not all xenon plus comes with D2S? isn't that standard in europe?

[Saturnine]

The 4 sets of Bixenons that ive had all had D1S blubs..

weird.

[confused]

[ProtoColD]

From what I know, they all come with D1S bulb. Valeo did not make any D2S bi-xenon projectors.

[ProtoColD]

Originally posted by Saturnine
Its all plug and play.. Its a really tight fit on the passenger side thou, since the wiring harness *barely* has enough slack in it..

I have tried. My wiring harness on the passenger is not long enough at all.

I would have to build an extend harness to go with it. Now I have only the driver side working. [:(]

[Saturnine]

Check your Bixenons out.. they are Valeo's..


Originally posted by ProtoColD
From what I know, they all come with D1S bulb. Valeo did not make any D2S bi-xenon projectors.

[ProtoColD]

Originally posted by Saturnine
Check your Bixenons out.. they are Valeo's..

I know. Thats what i am saying. Valeo did not make any D2S bi-xenon. They are all D1S bi-xenon.

[Saturnine]

Oh.

[:D]

[ProtoColD]

Originally posted by Saturnine
Oh.

[:D]

Hey man, on the driver side, did you have to relocate some other wire harness before you get put the headlight in??

I have to move some wiring harness otherwise it wont fit. How did you do yours?

[neoprufrok]

Originally posted by ProtoColD
I have tried. My wiring harness on the passenger is not long enough at all.

I would have to build an extend harness to go with it. Now I have only the driver side working. [:(]

If you look on the inside of the pass side fender withthe headlight out, there should be a plastic clip that holds that harness in. Take the harness out of that clip, and it should give you some slack. Then, as you push the housing in, connect the harness as soon as you can and push it all teh way in.

[Saturnine]

Its a tiiiiiiight fit fo sho..

[ProtoColD]

Originally posted by Saturnine
Its a tiiiiiiight fit fo sho..

Feel like almost breaking it.. you dont want to have a tight wire because wire will be hardened and degrade as it ages, you dont really want to stretch it too tight or else you may have a bad wiring harness which will be costly to replace later, especially when you have electrical problems.[:(]

I am trying to build an plug and play extension harness with OEM parts. Researching right now. I am half way done.

Having only 1 light sucks.

[neoprufrok]

Originally posted by ProtoColD
Feel like almost breaking it.. you dont want to have a tight wire because wire will be hardened and degrade as it ages, you dont really want to stretch it too tight or else you may have a bad wiring harness which will be costly to replace later, especially when you have electrical problems.[:(]

I am trying to build an plug and play extension harness with OEM parts. Researching right now. I am half way done.

Having only 1 light sucks.

It's not tight enough to cause any sort of degradation. It's taut for sure, but not tight enough to cause rubbing and degredation.

[ProtoColD]

Originally posted by Saturnine
Its a tiiiiiiight fit fo sho..

John,

Do you have autoleveling on your car??

[ProtoColD]

Originally posted by neoprufrok
It's not tight enough to cause any sort of degradation. It's taut for sure, but not tight enough to cause rubbing and degredation.

Oh you sure? coz mine is tight enough to cause rubbing... Can you take a picture of how you route the wire?? maybe I am doing something wrong here.

[Saturnine]

Yes sir.


Originally posted by ProtoColD
John,

Do you have autoleveling on your car??

[ProtoColD]

Originally posted by Saturnine
Yes sir.

I see. Nevermind.

I dont and I am also researching how to get manual leveling to work. I got all the parts for that just need to see how to wire them together also. Just checking.

[Saturnine]

Wait. Manual leveling? you mean the adjustment screws on the top?


Originally posted by ProtoColD
I see. Nevermind.

I dont and I am also researching how to get manual leveling to work. I got all the parts for that just need to see how to wire them together also. Just checking.

[ProtoColD]

No. Manual leveling is different from auto-leveling.

In Germany, all A4 with halogen headlight have manual leveling, which means inside the cabin, there is a oem knob switch in the dash that let you adjust the headlight level, up and down with 4 different step level. The switch is somehow connect to the manual leveling motor inside the headlight.

But for A4 with xenon headlight, they all have auto-leveling sensor build into the suspension and then sensor will talk to the ECU which then talk to the autolevel motor to adjust the level depending on the load of your car.

Once I can get it to work, I can adjust the headlight level up and down as needed.

[ProtoColD]

and no... i am not talking about the adjustment screw in which they are used to align the headlight somewhat.

Manual leveling is another stuff..

I have seen some people have retrofitted manual leveling even on their xenon car which already has autoleveling, they make something to override the autoleveling which is kinda cool.

[Saturnine]

Ahh cool.. I cant put that manual adjustment knob in there anyways, my sub level knob is there already[:D]

[ProtoColD]

John, are you good at electronics?

[Saturnine]

Not really[:(]

[ProtoColD]

[:(]

I was trying to get a hand to help me in researching that together. [:(]

[Saturnine]

i can do stereo stuff, but thats about it..

[ProtoColD]

I need to reverse engineer the switch and need to find out what pin go to what and then how to hook it to the little motor.

[ProtoColD]

How can you adjust the headlight horizontally AND vertically??

after the headlight is installed on the car, you will ONLY see 1 adjustment screws... is that for horizontal or vertical?

What about the other one??

[Saturnine]

The second adjustment screw isnt in the same place as US-spec etc.. If you look near the turn signal side of the light, there is a hole in the fender.. That's the new place where you stick the Allen key to adjust the vertical/horizontal (i cant remember which) position..

Take a look at the other light if you havent installed it yet..

[ProtoColD]

ya i see that when i have the headlight out.. but it was covered when I put the headlight in..[confused]

am i doing something wrong?

[Saturnine]

Read this again.


Originally posted by Saturnine
If you look near the turn signal side of the light, there is a hole in the fender.. That's the new place where you stick the Allen key to adjust the vertical/horizontal (i cant remember which) position..

Take a look at the other light if you havent installed it yet..

[ProtoColD]

So here is my solution for the short wiring harness on the passenger side, One end plug right into the original harness, the other end plug into the headlight. This is made of 100% pure OEM Audi parts:

http://flyservers.registerfly.com/members5/d2shid.com/images/B6_bixenon_harness_extension.JPG

[kwan]

Nice! I would have made one if I had the parts. =/ How much did it cost you?


Originally posted by ProtoColD
So here is my solution for the short wiring harness on the passenger side, One end plug right into the original harness, the other end plug into the headlight:

http://flyservers.registerfly.com/members5/d2shid.com/images/B6_bixenon_harness_extension.JPG

[Saturnine]

Thats slick Jackson!

[ProtoColD]

Here are the finished pictures:

Passenger side:
http://flyservers.registerfly.com/members5/d2shid.com/images/bixenon_right.JPG



Driver side(I have to take off the wire retainer that hold the harness in order for the headlight to fit in good), the space is now perfect:

http://flyservers.registerfly.com/members5/d2shid.com/images/bixenon_left.JPG

[precious4rings]

Interesting.

Are you planning to make your extension harness available to the public? I might need one if my bi-xenon install gets too difficult.

[KaiDaRudeboy]

me too me too!![:)]

[ProtoColD]

Yeah. I will probably make it as one of my available product. [:D]

Better do it this way than stretching/modifying the existing wiring.

[ProtoColD]

John, any feedback on those 5400K D1S OEM Bulb that you got from me?

[Saturnine]

Naw, i havent had the chance to put them in yet, my Bi's are still out of comission[:(]

[ProtoColD]

Did you fix it yet tho?

[Saturnine]

Nope, i havent had the time.

I think i might have located a drivers side housing thou..

We'll see[:D]

[Turbo_Whip]

I have the S4 Xenon Ecodes, they were a complete plug and play install. But the S4 Xenon-Plus Ecodes is larger unit (due to the more complex xenon light) so its a tight fit bit once its in, its not that hard. By the way, that price seems pretty good, the only reason others got such good prices is b/c they bought them from ebay.de, but for a store to be selling them at that price, that seems fair.